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Old 10-02-2009, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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I personally think this bill is ridiculous and will devastate the town of Moab. By them trying to ban all mechanized access to 9.4 MILLION acres it will dry up Moab's economy. If you aren't sure what mechanized access mean, it is all OHV AND mountain biking! I am an avid offroad enthusiast and Moab is a mecca for offroading. We OHV users bring so much money into that town. Without us and the mountain bikers, Moab will be destined to become another ghost town.

Just so you know, 9.4 millions acres equates to more than 40%! of Utah' land. Also, NONE of Utah's congressman are supporting this bill.

H.R. 1925: America's Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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I don't get that from reading it. Seems it refers to mapping, setbacks for roads, water rights, and livestock grazing.

Didn't see anything about vehicles, etc...

Is there a better source for understand what this bill will actually do?
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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I watched the meeting live today and it was nothing but an argument over OHV and all mechanized access. They are trying to shut this land down to everything but foot traffic.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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Some more info...

Moab Might Be Gone Forever! | Miscellaneous Blog & Opinions at 4Wheel & Off Road Magazine
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:40 AM
 
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Maybe I'm missing something. because the Department of the Interior doesn't need a piece of legislation to exclude vehicles from any portion of Federal Lands, they can do it administratively any time they like.

Justia :: 43 C.F.R. PART 8340—OFF-ROAD VEHICLES
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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Where I live, in Sedona, mountain bikers are a real danger to regular hikers on our trails. They ride too fast when they cannot see who is round the corner and show scant regard for others. I would support banning them altogether.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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I don't understand why some people in my state think they should have the right to leave tire tracks across every square inch of the land. EVERYWHERE that has become popular with ORVs in the state has been thoroughly trashed. Previously beautiful landscapes in Moab are now destroyed and full of trash. It's public land... some people don't mind living with a yard full of weeds, beer cans and dead pickups, but the rest of us do.

The land wont be closed to all access; get out and walk that beer belly off. Horray for wilderness, it keeps the loosers out of the backcountry!
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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I don't understand why some people in my state think they should have the right to leave tire tracks across every square inch of the land. EVERYWHERE that has become popular with ORVs in the state has been thoroughly trashed. Previously beautiful landscapes in Moab are now destroyed and full of trash. It's public land... some people don't mind living with a yard full of weeds, beer cans and dead pickups, but the rest of us do.

The land wont be closed to all access; get out and walk that beer belly off. Horray for wilderness, it keeps the loosers out of the backcountry!
What he said
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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I don't think anything that is desiganted as wilderness should have motorized and other vehicles, as then it is not really wilderness. Unless an emergency vehicle needs access, what is the big deal? After viewing The National Parks documentary that has been airing on PBS lately, you feel very grateful for the few that stepped forward to fight for and guarantee open and pristine spaces for all Americans to enjoy. There is so little left that has not been trashed and polluted for the sake of entertainment, that anything that can be protected and preserved is well worth the effort. Let the bikers start rock climbing instead.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Where I live, in Sedona, mountain bikers are a real danger to regular hikers on our trails. They ride too fast when they cannot see who is round the corner and show scant regard for others. I would support banning them altogether.
Now, now. Be nice, play fair. Oh, I forgot that's not something that liberals can do. I'll be sure to ride my bike in a safe courteous manner as I always have; but that's something that this sniveling minority will never admit.
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