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Old 10-03-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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So, now UN agrees with it. What are they/us going to do about it?

NYT: U.N. report says Iran has data for a nuke - The New York Times- msnbc.com

Senior staff members of the United Nations nuclear agency have concluded in a confidential analysis that Iran has acquired “sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable” atom bomb.

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Old 10-03-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Alrighty then.

For all those who tisked, tisked and dismissed the reports of Iran and the bomb, how ya feeling about now?

I seem to remember quite a few people claiming Bush and the intelligence was lying once again.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Alrighty then.

For all those who tisked, tisked and dismissed the reports of Iran and the bomb, how ya feeling about now?

I seem to remember quite a few people claiming Bush and the intelligence was lying once again.
Bush, like any other president, knows only what his intelligence tells him, and his NIE said Iran had frozen the nuke project since 2003. All 16 American intelligence services agreed with that assesment, while Israel and others stuck with their intelligence which said Iran was trying to build one.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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So, now UN agrees with it. What are they/us going to do about it?

NYT: U.N. report says Iran has data for a nuke - The New York Times- msnbc.com

Senior staff members of the United Nations nuclear agency have concluded in a confidential analysis that Iran has acquired “sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable” atom bomb.

more on link....
Anyone who has internet access" has sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable atom bomb"
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Alrighty then.

For all those who tisked, tisked and dismissed the reports of Iran and the bomb, how ya feeling about now?

I seem to remember quite a few people claiming Bush and the intelligence was lying once again.
Iran with possibly one bomb and no real delivery capabilty is not as great a threat as Israel with hundreds.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Anyone who has internet access" has sufficient information to be able to design and produce a workable atom bomb"
It takes a tad more than a quick read about it in wikipedia.

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Old 10-03-2009, 06:18 PM
 
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Alrighty then.

For all those who tisked, tisked and dismissed the reports of Iran and the bomb, how ya feeling about now?

I seem to remember quite a few people claiming Bush and the intelligence was lying once again.
I don't think it was farfetched to think that Iran had the technology or was working on it. A lot of the discussion is what to do about it. The absurdity arises when people have the audacity to think Obama is weak-kneed on the issue. They point to Iran's latest nuclear revelations as evidence that Obama is weak and/or perceived weak. The only problem is that Iran's nuclear ambitions pre-date Obama's presidency. They champion Bush as someone who would have done something about it. He obviously didn't. It is claimed that McCain would have done something about it, too. But could he?

In the blind partisanship that occurs on both sides, both fail to realize that some problems are difficult to solve no matter which party is in power and that the solution has to transcend partisanship. Iran wants a nuclear device and it has been that nation's goal for some time - it just happens to be that Obama is in power just when the Iranian's nuclear program is starting to bear fruit.

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The report, titled “Possible Military Dimensions of Iran’s Nuclear Program,” was produced in consultation with a range of nuclear weapons experts inside and outside the agency. It draws a picture of a complex program, run by Iran’s Ministry of Defense, “aimed at the development of a nuclear payload to be delivered using the Shahab 3 missile system,” Iran’s medium-range missile, which can strike the Middle East and parts of Europe. The program, according to the report, apparently began in early 2002.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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Iran with possibly one bomb and no real delivery capabilty is not as great a threat as Israel with hundreds.
One is enough to hold the region as hostage. I don't think they would actually nuke someone, but they would use it to unstabilaze the whole region.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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Iran's Nukes: Why Europe and U.S. Split Over Intel | Newsweek International | Newsweek.com

The United States and its allies seem unified in their desire to use diplomacy and the threat of sanctions to press Iran to abandon any nuclear-weapons program it may have. But they appear to differ on whether that program exists or not.

Three European counterproliferation officials, who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive information, confirmed to NEWSWEEK that British intelligence agencies believe that Iran is actively pushing ahead with a nuclear-bomb program. One of the officials said that U.K. intelligence outfits—led by MI-6—are "skeptical" of suggestions, most notably by U.S. intelligence agencies, that Iran stopped work on a military program to design and build a nuclear weapon in 2003.

The U.S. position is contained in a controversial National Intelligence Estimate, produced in 2007. This document said that U.S. agencies "judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program" and that "the halt lasted at least several years." The 2007 NIE also said that American agencies assessed "with moderate confidence Tehran had not restarted its nuclear weapons program as of mid-2007, but we do not know whether it currently intends to develop nuclear weapons."
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:51 PM
 
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One is enough to hold the region as hostage. I don't think they would actually nuke someone, but they would use it to unstabilaze the whole region.
Israel started the arms race, it has illegal WMDs and the US allows this. It has also refused to sign the NPT which Iran has signed!! Now ask yourself, given the attacks on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Pakistan why wouldn't Iran seek a deterrent?

The USA is dishonest because if we really sought peace, we'd make sure the entire Middle East was nuke free, and we'd have to start with the regime in Israel. I don't see how any thinking person cannot see that the US' uneven policy in the Middle East has DRIVEN Iran to seek a deterrent so they won't get attacked.
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'Obama won't press Israel to reveal nuclear arsenal' - Haaretz - Israel News U.S. President Barack Obama will not pressure Israel to disclose its nuclear arsenal to international inspection, as reported on Friday by The Washington Times. The 40-year-old covert agreement between the U.S. and Israel has allegedly permitted Israel to maintain an active nuclear facility without inspection that contains several hundred nuclear bombs.
Seriously now, how can any rational person expect Iran to not seek a deterrent? how can anyone say the United States is remotely honest or even-handed? Taking sides like this is a form of hate, the United States of America should not be doing this.

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