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Old 10-04-2009, 10:46 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Totally ridiculous, how long does it take to make a decision to get the troops the things they need to kick some butt?

While Obama is flying off to Denmark and another date night and not making a swift decision on adding the ask for amount of troops needed, the attack today was a total use of Obamas lack of quick decision making.

The enemy saw this outpost as unmanned and not enough firepower to handle a large surge of enemy combatants.

Obama, it is time to get off you butt and get the commanders what they asked for.

You were against the surge in Iraq and was wrong, now you are the commander and are playing games with our troops lives.

Time to send in everything need to wipe this enemy out and end this once and for all.

No more Mr Nice guy America, time to kick ass and take names later.

Get off your butt Obama.

It began before dawn a devastating, well-planned attack. About 300 insurgents swarmed out of a village and mosque and attacked a pair of isolated American outposts in a remote mountainous area of eastern Afghanistan with machineguns, rockets and grenades.

Eight American soldiers and two Afghan policemen were killed, with many injured. It was the worst attack on Nato forces in 14 months, and one of the deadliest battles of the eight-year war. The insurgents seized at least 20 Afghan policemen whose fate last night remained unclear.

Worst losses for a year as Taleban storm Nato outpost - Times Online
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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Totally ridiculous, how long does it take to make a decision to get the troops the things they need to kick some butt?
Probably about as long as it will take for you to understand what the troop increase is for.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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You've got to get your priorities straight. Trying to get the Olympics to Chicago to enrich friends and family is much more important than the lives of some soldier in Afghanistan.

Either give the troops what they need to get the job done, including a plan of action, or pull them out and tell the Afghani government "It's all you now". If they do the second of the two then it'll be a repeat of Saigon.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:35 PM
 
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You guys cannot be serious.

I despised George Bush but did not bash him constantly for the lives of our brave solders that were taken! Bush went out to eat. He went to places. He went on vacation a lot to Texas. Bush sent out solders out to a place where they should not have even been in. They should have gone to Afghanistan in the first place! Over 4,000 brave people have died and yet I did not freak out if Bush went out to eat or anything.

But yet if Obama does it, it is a crime? Why? Why is that?

Poor President Obama. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

May luck and protection be with him.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Better to ask where is the Commanding General who put people out on isolated outposts where he could not support them. I'm sure he doesn't go over the placement of outposts with the President.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Better question is I kicked the damn coffee table and where is Obama?
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:43 PM
 
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This warmonger hussein obama is not worthy of his office.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:48 PM
 
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This warmonger hussein obama is not worthy of his office.
Is it me, or on one thread you are calling for more troops and other you are calling Obama a warmonger for fighting a war that he didn't start.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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You guys cannot be serious.

I despised George Bush but did not bash him constantly for the lives of our brave solders that were taken! Bush went out to eat. He went to places. He went on vacation a lot to Texas. Bush sent out solders out to a place where they should not have even been in. They should have gone to Afghanistan in the first place! Over 4,000 brave people have died and yet I did not freak out if Bush went out to eat or anything.

But yet if Obama does it, it is a crime? Why? Why is that?

Poor President Obama. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

May luck and protection be with him.
You guys miss the point. Obama was going to be better. McCain was just another Bush, remember? Obama set himself up for the criticism by promising to be different; you remember that slogan about "Change", right?
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Afghan troop request expected by Friday - Washington Times#
The showdown led Gen. McChrystal privately to tell his senior staff he would resign absent a clear commitment from Mr. Obama to implement the counterinsurgency strategy approved by the White House in March, two senior military officials with direct knowledge of the general's remarks said.
The official told The Washington Times Wednesday that Gen. McChrystal would turn in to the Pentagon by Friday a formal request for between 10,000 and 40,000 more troops - covering three options for fighting in Afghanistan - and that he expects to testify soon before Congress.
The bold private remarks by Gen. McChrystal were prompted by Mr. Obama's recent decision to revisit the counterinsurgency strategy the general had been asked to develop and implement when he took charge in Afghanistan following the ouster of Gen. David McKiernan.
Mr. Obama made his doubts about the strategy public when he appeared on several talk shows on Sunday.
Mr. Obama told CNN's State of the Union that he was asking himself and his advisers: "Are we pursuing the right strategy?"
On NBC's Meet the Press, he said he would not send more troops to Afghanistan "until I'm satisfied that we've got the right strategy."
The White House review of Afghan strategy was prompted in part by concerns that Afghan President Hamid Karzai encouraged fraud in his country's Aug. 20 presidential elections.
"There is one new factor and that is the election in Afghanistan," said Bruce Riedel, who headed the Obama administration's initial Afghanistan-Pakistan review last winter. "A counterinsurgency strategy needs a legitimate partner. Because of the fiasco of these elections, we are waiting to see if that will emerge."
Many Democrats are also wary of sending more soldiers to Afghanistan in light of rising casualties. In the last month, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California, has come out against sending more troops beyond the 68,000 Americans already scheduled to be there by the end of this year.
The influential chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Carl Levin, a Democrat from Michigan, has asked for more time to review the strategy before agreeing to further increases in deployments.
The White House wavering has upset some in the military and the Republican party who have noted that Mr. Obama opposed the Iraq war but said the Afghan conflict was an underresourced "war of necessity" to defeat al Qaeda.
"Basically, time is running out and McChrystal needs an an answer to implement his strategy," one of the U.S. defense officials said.
The other senior military official added, "Petraeus is frustrated, McChrystal is frustrated and the guys on the Joint Staff don't know which way to go."
Mr. Riedel said he had no knowledge of internal deliberations on Afghanistan now but that "I would advise everyone to take a deep breath and give the president a little time to maneuver."
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