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Old 10-05-2009, 12:56 AM
 
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In fort worth a mentally ill person was tasered to death. Fort Worth Police turned away paramedics as the person died in agony.

Texas man's Taser death ruled homicide | Bryan/College Station, Texas - The Eagle (http://www.theeagle.com/texas/Texas-man-s-Taser-death-ruled-homicide - broken link)

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Old 10-05-2009, 01:17 AM
 
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In fort worth a mentally ill person was tasered to death. Police turned away paramedics as the person died in agony.

Texas man's Taser death ruled homicide | Bryan/College Station, Texas - The Eagle (http://www.theeagle.com/texas/Texas-man-s-Taser-death-ruled-homicide - broken link)
That would be real trick since a Taser won't cycle for 49 seconds (continually).
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:19 AM
 
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It was ruled a homicide. Didn't you read the article? The man stopped breathing and the police turned away the paramedics.

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That would be real trick since a Taser won't cycle for 49 seconds.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:30 AM
 
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It was ruled a homicide. Didn't you read the article? The man stopped breathing and the police turned away the paramedics.
I'm not arguing what it was ruled. If a cop shoots someone, it's ruled a Homicide (whether justifiable or not is the question) too. No need to me. Something is F-ed up. A law enforcement taser will only cycle for 5 seconds max. It can be stopped earlier (1-4 seconds), but it can only go 5 seconds per cycle. You can't keep tapping the trigger before the cycle runs out and have it "continue". It will show as another application. At 54 seconds (total...per the article), the least number of applications possible is 11 (not 2). Look it up yourself.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:33 AM
 
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I'm not arguing what it was ruled. If a cop shoots someone, it's ruled a Homicide (whether justifiable or not is the question) too. No need to me. Something is F-ed up. A law enforcement taser will only cycle for 5 seconds max. It can be stopped earlier (1-4 seconds), but it can only go 5 seconds per cycle. You can't keep tapping the trigger before the cycle runs out and have it "continue". It will show as another application. At 54 seconds (total...per the article), the least number of applications possible is 11 (not 2).
A five second jolt to a person with a pre-existing cardiac arrhythmic condition can disrupt the heart's already abnormal heart pattern. Of course if you believe that the electrical pulse to the heart is greater than that produced by a taser...
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:40 AM
 
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A five second jolt to a person with a pre-existing cardiac arrhythmic condition can disrupt the heart's already abnormal heart pattern. Of course if you believe that the electrical pulse to the heart is greater than that produced by a taser...
It can? The Taser affects the heart?
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:40 AM
 
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A five second jolt to a person with a pre-existing cardiac arrhythmic condition can disrupt the heart's already abnormal heart pattern. Of course if you believe that the electrical pulse to the heart is greater than that produced by a taser...

A 165 grain hollow point slug can disrupt a person's cardiac condition in 1/5000th of a second.

I don't know what the answer is. On one hand we all want cities to crack down on crime. We don't want the police to kill innocent people either. Guns are not always the answer, and neither are Taser's.

I think that in fairness, 99% of those Tasered suffer no long-term effects, while 90% of those shot by the police die. It is a tough call to make, but I think the Taser is still the more humane option for the safety of the officers and bystanders.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:51 AM
 
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A 165 grain hollow point slug can disrupt a person's cardiac condition in 1/5000th of a second.

I don't know what the answer is. On one hand we all want cities to crack down on crime. We don't want the police to kill innocent people either. Guns are not always the answer, and neither are Taser's.

I think that in fairness, 99% of those Tasered suffer no long-term effects, while 90% of those shot by the police die. It is a tough call to make, but I think the Taser is still the more humane option for the safety of the officers and bystanders.
The answer is it doesn't affect the heart (or heartbeat). It won't even affect a pacemaker. People assume this just like they assume a defibrillator "jump starts" the heart.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:56 AM
 
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Although it is not a direct jolt to the heart (as in the case of defibrillator), anything that causes a "shock" to the central nervous system can affect the heart - changes in respiration, pulse, blood pressure, biochemical changes, ...
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:15 AM
 
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Although it is not a direct jolt to the heart (as in the case of defibrillator), anything that causes a "shock" to the central nervous system can affect the heart - changes in respiration, pulse, blood pressure, biochemical changes, ...
It affects the sensory and motor functions of the nervous system.
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