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Old 10-06-2009, 02:26 PM
 
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You've already concluded with "good luck..." and I did likewise. Just incase: Good luck and it was a pleasure debating with you!
haha - that's what I thought. Perhaps you should step back off the conspiracy edge until you have corroborating evidence for your claims regarding motivation and intent. (I'll concede the polio... )
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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haha - that's what I thought. Perhaps you should step back off the conspiracy edge until you have corroborating evidence for your claims regarding motivation and intent. (I'll concede the polio... )
Yes, I agree with you. Thanks for setting me straight.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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The world's oil producers, as well as China, Japan and France, are in secret talks to end the use of the U.S. dollar to buy and sell crude oil, a British newspaper reported on Tuesday, sending the American currency lower in overseas trading.

"Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars," said the report in The Independent, which cited unidentified sources in the Gulf and Hong Kong. It added that France had also been involved in the talks.

Report: Gulf States in Secret Talks to Drop Dollar - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com


Is that what is happening under Obama.....America going to be from one of the most powerful countries to the laughing stock of the world. OMG, this can't be happening.
Obviously you haven't a clue.

Many of the world central banks have been transferring part of the reserves away from the dollar and in to the EURO and other, more viable and more solid currencies, since mid 2004.

here's a report from 2006 for example
Holders Of Dollars Diversify Into Euros

2007
Global Finance Magazine - Corporate Finance : Greenback’s Decline Prompts Talk Of Central Bank Reserve Diversification And Ending Pegs To Dollar

I removed my investments from the USA in 2003.

The dollar isn't worth the paper it's written on
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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^But it's still one of the most widely used currencies and IS the world's largest reserve currency.

Other countries want to diversify their holdings, not throw all eggs from one basket to another.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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http://pe.usps.com/text/Imm/immc3_008.htm

The USPS has a conversion table, to convert from the US dollar to IMF (SDR) .625 to the dollar.
scroll down for the table:
It looks like the SDR has been in planning for a long time, it just takes a crisis to change
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Seems to have been a major change during the "Bush Era".
Thank you for posting that. No more need be said. The Republicans might not ever accept that it was their hero, GW Bush that wrecked the country and its economy but the graph speaks for itself. Then they all want to blame Obama. All the sudden "deficits are bad" after they sat in total and complete silence while their President raped the dollar and drove the economy into the toilet. Sheesh!
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Centre of the Universe (Toronto)
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A couple thoughts:

China, Russia and France, the same countries who violated UN Sanctions with the oil-for-food scandal. This cabal is old.

Saudis and China have huge reserves of dollars, it is not in their best interests to make moves to devalue it.

Our GNP is something like $15T, x3 the amount of the next highest GNP $5T (Japan). That's about twice as much as the next hightest GNP of $3T (UK, France or Germany - one of them). Our economy is still the global power house.

China has just recently re-pegged the Juan to the dollar. This keeps the currency artificially low. I'm not sure how an artificially deflated currency would work in a basket of currencies to trade oil for - it doesnt seem best for free market world trade to use a currency a gov't actively interferes with.

That's why Russia spoke publicity this month that they're investing in Euro or CDN$ So are other's following. Good with hat so called "powehouse"
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Default This is nothing new...

They've been openly discussing this for at least 5 years.

The dollar isn't worth the money it's printed on.
The Euro is it.

XE - The World's Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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The world's oil producers, as well as China, Japan and France, are in secret talks to end the use of the U.S. dollar to buy and sell crude oil

Is that what is happening under Obama.....America going to be from one of the most powerful countries to the laughing stock of the world. OMG, this can't be happening.
lmao, this is nothing new people have been talking about and doing this under bush but people like you thought it was a joke made stupid threads about it call them socialist commies etc. the devalue of the dollar went down long before 1-20-09...even before Nov 08 COUNTRIES speculating overated Dollar..

Its the Obamas fault card has been created
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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The OP has an extreme shortage of memory or attention, i guess his brain says hey lets wait til the next guy comes in and ignore the guy before yeaaaaaah.
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