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Yes, they should completely forgive 142 37.97%
They should forgive but dont forget 183 48.93%
No, they shouldnt forgive America 49 13.10%
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Who would you forgive? The slave traders and the slave holders are all dead. Is guilt somehow passed down through the generations, a secular version of original sin? What about those whites (its who we are really talking about here) who came to this country after slavery, after the Civil War? Are the descendents of Italian immigrants who came here in 1900 somehow guilty for Antebellum slavery?

Oh, let me add, .
Exactly and all good points. Do you think that a black who is still stewing over the past looks at a white person and wonders if their ancestors were slave owners? No, you are guilty just because you are white. That makes no sense at all.
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I was not a slave, so a transgression has not been committed against me to forgive.

I definitely won't forget though. Even in 2012, if you're an African-American, there are experiences in your life that won't allow you to totally forget.

And I don't want to forget about slavery. My ancestors were ROCK STARS and persevered in the face of so much adversity. I'd never want to forget them. I only hope that I honor their sacrifice by the way in which I live my life.
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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Exactly and all good points. Do you think that a black who is still stewing over the past looks at a white person and wonders if their ancestors were slave owners? No, you are guilty just because you are white. That makes no sense at all.
Again with folks being full of themselves.

No one hates you...get over it!! You're not worth the emotion of hate. You're just an ordinary mustache trying to get by just like everyone else. When a black person sees you, they don't wonder about ANYTHING!! You're nameless and faceless. They don't give you a second thought.

No one is accusing you of being guilty of anything so get over yourself. We don't care about you OR your inconsequential history.

If a black person is stewing over something, it sure as hell aint about anything YOU did.

Damn...do people always go around being this narcissistic?
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: southern california
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u cant forgive someone that did u no wrong.
u can only let go of your own hatred and lust for revenge.
u were never a slave and i was never a slave owner, not ever.
we are only slaves to our own hatred and violence.
when we both see that the violence will stop.
there is no past only the present.
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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u cant forgive someone that did u no wrong.
u can only let go of your own hatred and lust for revenge.
u were never a slave and i was never a slave owner, not ever.
we are only slaves to our own hatred and violence.
when we both see that the violence will stop.
there is no past only the present.
Who ever claimed that they were a slave and that you were a slave owner?

Some of you folks have some serious problems.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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But true.

There are people graduating high school who can't read, what makes you think they can find a continent on the globe?
No, it is not true. That poster was saying that it doesn't matter if AA forgive the US for slavery because they are too dumb to even find Africa on a map. That is false and unacceptable. Many Americans, black or white, may have trouble finding certain countries (like some of the -stans, it is a common joke) on a map, but not a whole continent. That poster was just being mean spirited. Most high school graduates can read, btw. A few may have trouble I admit, but the vast majority can. The illiteracy rate in this country isn't THAT bad.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Again with folks being full of themselves.

No one hates you...get over it!! You're not worth the emotion of hate. You're just an ordinary mustache trying to get by just like everyone else. When a black person sees you, they don't wonder about ANYTHING!! You're nameless and faceless. They don't give you a second thought.

No one is accusing you of being guilty of anything so get over yourself. We don't care about you OR your inconsequential history.

If a black person is stewing over something, it sure as hell aint about anything YOU did.

Damn...do people always go around being this narcissistic?
Agreed. Outside of extremists, I can't imagine a black person going around wondering this about white people. I have yet to meet one person who does this.

It's very interesting to me that some white people think black people think about them, when it is the furthest thing from the truth. I'm starting to believe it's because they think of us so much.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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We do deny them a good education, access to livable wages, and shun them from large segments of our communities.
Who's "we"?
I don't.
And most I know do not.

And for the record, anyone who wishes to learn can do so on their own. The only thing that educational establishments give are CREDENTIALS, not education.

Equitable trade is not possible under socialism - too much overhead. You'd have to eradicate socialism to get equitable (and livable) wages.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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Who's "we"?
I don't.
And most I know do not.

And for the record, anyone who wishes to learn can do so on their own. The only thing that educational establishments give are CREDENTIALS, not education.

Equitable trade is not possible under socialism - too much overhead. You'd have to eradicate socialism to get equitable (and livable) wages.
Tell that to the folks in Norway, Denmark and Sweden. They seem to be doing fine in terms of living conditions with socialist governments.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:17 PM
 
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Who's "we"?
I don't.
And most I know do not.

And for the record, anyone who wishes to learn can do so on their own. The only thing that educational establishments give are CREDENTIALS, not education.

Equitable trade is not possible under socialism - too much overhead. You'd have to eradicate socialism to get equitable (and livable) wages.
Tell that to the folks in Norway, Denmark and Sweden. They seem to be doing fine in terms of living conditions with socialist governments. They have much higher educational levels in terms of collegiate graduates and much lower poverty levels than we have here in the United States.
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