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10-08-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by karfar
Ego...yes, I see this said on this forum all the time yet no one can even give a rational explanation of why they say it, weird. Were you opposed to the Iraq & Afghanistan wars previously or is it just now? I oppose both of them for sure, I agree we should get out of both places. But to sit there & say the troops have been abandoned NOW & totally forget the last 8 years of them being there is completely ludicrous.
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I was not opposed to these wars to protect our country under strong decisive leadership. I fear for our military men and women with this egomaniacal waffler as Commander in Chief.
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10-08-2009, 09:41 PM
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Never lose your sense of wonder..........or wander
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Originally Posted by sailordave
Hmm, news reporters and so called experts said our troops would never win in Afghanistan because the Soviet Union, their favorite form of government it appears, couldn't do so. In a matter of weeks our troops had the Taliban running for their lives back into Pakistan. Afghanistan was relatively peaceful and quiet until after Obama became president. Now the Taliban is pushing back and Obama sits on his throne doing nothing but interviews for TV and magazines while our troops are getting killed in combat.
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So, seven years accomplished WHAT?
Keeping contractors well funded?
We've had enough shoot from the hip and damn what we're aiming at 'diplomacy' in the recent past that's done NOTHING to improve America or its security.
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10-08-2009, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy
I was not opposed to these wars to protect our country under strong decisive leadership. I fear for our military men and women with this egomaniacal waffler as Commander in Chief.
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Protect? Do you even know what the word means?
From what? Saddam Hussein, an enemy of al Qaeda?
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10-08-2009, 09:43 PM
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I was not opposed to these wars to protect our country under strong decisive leadership. I fear for our military men and women with this egomaniacal waffler as Commander in Chief.
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Yeah, ok. So getting advice before moving forward is now considered weak. How odd. For what it's worth, I would not have been opposed to Bush doing that same thing, getting advice before acting. It's smart to act, not react, don't you think?
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10-08-2009, 09:43 PM
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7 years of the Taliban in hiding in Pakistan while the regular Afghani rebuilds. Obama is elected, Taliban sees weakness in him, they push to attack our forces, Obama does absolutely nothing to provide aid for the troops, and the Taliban sees his weakness is confirmed.
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10-08-2009, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sailordave
7 years of the Taliban in hiding in Pakistan while the regular Afghani rebuilds. Obama is elected, Taliban sees weakness in him, they push to attack our forces, Obama does absolutely nothing to provide aid for the troops, and the Taliban sees his weakness is confirmed.
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The taliban stayed low for only a short while, they were still engaging in horrific acts while Bush was in office & our troops were there, it's not only since Obama came into office. That's ignorant to think that.
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10-08-2009, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sailordave
7 years of the Taliban in hiding in Pakistan while the regular Afghani rebuilds. Obama is elected, Taliban sees weakness in him, they push to attack our forces, Obama does absolutely nothing to provide aid for the troops, and the Taliban sees his weakness is confirmed.
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And IF the Taliban was our true enemy, WHY were they allowed to hangout for 7 years other than due to the inaction of weak leadership? IF you're at war and have clearly defined your enemy, you chase him to the gates of hell, and beyond.
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10-08-2009, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
The U.S. has the distinct fighting advantage in this war -- more firepower, superior weapons and a larger fighting force -- but critics say the ongoing deliberations in Washington are putting American troops at a distinct disadvantage -- and in harm's way.
War Deliberations in D.C. May Give Taliban Advantage in Afghanistan, Critics Say - Political News - FOXNews.com
So many family members are fighting over there and abandoned by this government....Obama needs to either get out or send troops...this is suicide! We don't want more of our man and woman get killed over there....just because this inexperienced president can't make a decision....shouldn't the generals on the ground over there know what needs to be done, and Obama listen to them....JMO!
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Seems like no decisions were made over the past......hmmm.......how many years. Troops sent somewhere else. Billions spent somewhere else. Now some critics (and congressmen) are worried about our troops.
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10-08-2009, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sailordave
7 years of the Taliban in hiding in Pakistan while the regular Afghani rebuilds.
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Please remember that we sent over 12 billion to Pakistan during this time period, some of which certainly went to the Pakistani intelligence agencies to help hide the Taliban. It's like 9/11 and the Saudis--we paid to inflict such grievous damage on ourselves.
Check out Pen and Sword by a retired naval air commander. I hope it changes the way you, and many Americans, think.
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10-08-2009, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90
So what should he do if you are so smart?
Wait for another 10 months?
Get a second opinion and undermine the same Generals that he told us all that he would be communicating with and failed to do so?
What is YOUR plan then or do you need more time so more American soliders can die because the enemy sees us as weak under Obama.
The enemy have ramped up the attacks because they know the moron cannot make a decision to save his arse.
How many more lives are going to be lost because of Obama's mistakes?
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Let me get this straight! You want Obama to make a rush decision about an eight year long war that has accomplished nothing. What is the hurry this time? We were hoodwinked into a war with Iraq because of the urgency of the "smoking gun." Soldiers might die unless Obama makes his decision right now?
Yet 45,000 Americans die each year due to lack of health insurance but Republicans are in no hurry to reform healthcare!
The Raw Story » Study: 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of insurance
Fox News is ramping up propaganda again. Israel wants more U.S. troops in Afghanistan so they can eventually be diverted to fight Israel's war against Iran! Murdoch is a Zionist Jew, therefore, anything you hear on Fox News will be totally biased for Israel.
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