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Old 10-11-2009, 05:05 AM
 
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H.R. 3045: Section 8 Voucher Reform Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

following this maxine waters bill, the CBO estimates that implementing this legislation would have a net cost of $7.6 billion over the 2010-2014 period, assuming appropriation of the necessary amounts.

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Old 10-11-2009, 05:25 AM
 
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I realize that there is a certain segment of our society that do not have the ability to produce even what they need to survive but why do I have to keep increasing their standard of living?

- Reel
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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H.R. 3045: Section 8 Voucher Reform Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

following this maxine waters bill, the CBO estimates that implementing this legislation would have a net cost of $7.6 billion over the 2010-2014 period, assuming appropriation of the necessary amounts.

Since you brought it up, what is the current cost, that this bill replaces?
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Since you brought it up, what is the current cost, that this bill replaces?
I did find an old CBO estimate for 2006...$1.2 billion for 2007-2011.
Looks like they were off a bit by a few billion. And this estimate was done in 2006..when "times were good".

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Old 10-11-2009, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I realize that there is a certain segment of our society that do not have the ability to produce even what they need to survive but why do I have to keep increasing their standard of living?

- Reel
America's race to the bottom. Lower the bar at the top and raise the bar at the bottom. Tax and share until we are all on equal footing.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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America's race to the bottom. Lower the bar at the top and raise the bar at the bottom. Tax and share until we are all on equal footing.
There is a word for that.......
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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America's race to the bottom. Lower the bar at the top...................

We've worked so hard to do that with education - No Child Left Behind is now the law of the land, yet most find it ok to cheat on a test and have, if it gets you ahead.

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Old 10-11-2009, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We've worked so hard to do that with education - No Child Left Behind is now the law of the land.
Yes, it was rolled out with the idea to raise the bar and make all children smarter.

It turned out to be lower the standards so that "No Child is Left Behind".

Federal funds tied to attendence and test scores. The lure of money is greater than a true education of children.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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Yes, it was rolled out with the idea to raise the bar and make all children smarter.

It turned out to be lower the standards so that "No Child is Left Behind".

Federal funds tied to attendence and test scores. The lure of money is greater than a true education of children.
The way they implemented "No Child is Left Behind" was to make it "No Child Gets Ahead".

Here they quit teaching the smarter kids and focused on the slow kids trying to make sure enough of them passed the test which only tests minimal knowledge. The teachers now turn school days into endless drills, they have their classrooms divided into those children who will pass with no problem and so can be ignored, those children who have no chance to pass and so also can be left alone, and all the focus is on the borderline kids who might pass the test if they repeat over and over and over the same thing and make sure they understand how to fill in the dots correctly.

Before this "No Child Left Behind", the schools could split out the brighter kids and give them advanced coursework, but now they have to divide the classrooms "fairly" so each teacher gets a fair share of bright kids so each can focus on the slow.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: California
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I realize that there is a certain segment of our society that do not have the ability to produce even what they need to survive but why do I have to keep increasing their standard of living?

- Reel
I feel the same way. I wouldn't mind this so much if we cut off everyone who got to this place based on their own life choices. If people don't feel SCARED about ending up at the bottom they won't stop themselves from falling. Society has to make the idea of living off public handouts undesirable and even embarrassing. I don't care about anyone's feelings or self esteem when the country is in this much trouble. Same can be said for our public schools too, it's about time we started flunking kids again and LET THEM worry about the social stigma. It's a great motivator.

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