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Old 10-12-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Cub Scout's "Weapon" Earns him Suspension - CBS News

Are people this dumb? That 40 pound Cub Scout is a real terror. The part about the third grade girl bringing a knife to school to cut her birthday cake and getting suspended for a year...priceless.

NO COMMON SENSE ANYMORE! No f-ing wonder things are the way they are in this country.
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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My son was suspended in kindergarden for taking a squirt gun to school for "show n tell". The school told me that per their policy, they should have called the police and filed a police report.

Response my son asked was "its a toy, not real, you dont know the difference?".. Again, he was 5...
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Edwardsville, IL
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My son was suspended in kindergarden for taking a squirt gun to school for "show n tell". The school told me that per their policy, they should have called the police and filed a police report.

Response my son asked was "its a toy, not real, you dont know the difference?".. Again, he was 5...
Both of these stories are ridiculous! We are living in a gestapo-like society, run by our unconsitutional government (thanks libs/hypocrites!).
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: PNW
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My son was suspended in kindergarden for taking a squirt gun to school for "show n tell". The school told me that per their policy, they should have called the police and filed a police report.

Response my son asked was "its a toy, not real, you dont know the difference?".. Again, he was 5...
Freakin' idiots! This country has been wussified so bad it's pathetic. They could have a kid who disrupts class daily and NEVER do anything to that kid. A kid brings a squirt gun to school...they kick him out. Dumb!
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Zero-Tolerance policies have been implemented by decision making authorities, so they don't actually have to make decisions. Just another example of how alot of people are showing cerebral laziness
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Okay, the squirt gun is dumb but I can see the knife. Kid walks in, teacher sees it and lets him/her go their way because "It's to cut a birthday cake"...then kids proceeds to stab another kid, instant lawsuit and screaming parents. Not worth a year suspension though, that psychotic.

I can see preventing things that might be a bit suspicious to carry around, which makes me think of an old incident. Kid brought in an axe handle (yeah, there were bats around but they were kept under supervision) for shop class...got behind another kid and proceeded to hammer the hell out of him, nearly killed him. Pretty safe school as well, one of the best in the state, but you coop a couple thousand people up together and force them to get along some crack and best not let them have something around to do something with it. Those punishments are way too much though, especially if something is not explicitly spelled out.

The real problem are the enforced punishments. I know when I was a kid many punishments were often so light it wasn't even a slap on the wrist in some cases, now they get so harsh it's just the opposite extreme that even minor infractions get dealt the harshest punishments. There needs to be some leeway for reason without just not dealing with the problem.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: California
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Zero-Tolerance policies have been implemented by decision making authorities, so they don't actually have to make decisions. Just another example of how alot of people are showing cerebral laziness
I completely agree.

Zero Tolerance laws scare people so much that they act irrationally to cover their own butt's.

This is why I am against ANY LAW or RULE that takes the ability to make exceptions out of our hands.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Okay, the squirt gun is dumb but I can see the knife. Kid walks in, teacher sees it and lets him/her go their way because "It's to cut a birthday cake"...then kids proceeds to stab another kid, instant lawsuit and screaming parents. Not worth a year suspension though, that psychotic.

I can see preventing things that might be a bit suspicious to carry around, which makes me think of an old incident. Kid brought in an axe handle (yeah, there were bats around but they were kept under supervision) for shop class...got behind another kid and proceeded to hammer the hell out of him, nearly killed him. Pretty safe school as well, one of the best in the state, but you coop a couple thousand people up together and force them to get along some crack and best not let them have something around to do something with it. Those punishments are way too much though, especially if something is not explicitly spelled out.

The real problem are the enforced punishments. I know when I was a kid many punishments were often so light it wasn't even a slap on the wrist in some cases, now they get so harsh it's just the opposite extreme that even minor infractions get dealt the harshest punishments. There needs to be some leeway for reason without just not dealing with the problem.
Take the knife away until school is over. Have the kids parent come in, give them the knife and tell them they can't bring knives to school. Problem solved. The squirt gun thing is just dumb no matter which way you dice it. A kid could get stabbed to death with a pencil, a compass, etc. These are little kids. I can see if kids maliciously bring a weapon to school for no reason other than to have them. The one little kids brings his boy scout knife to school for show and tell (essentially), and the 3rd grader brings a knife that GRANDMA sends to cut birthday cake. Dumb!

Danger! Danger! Danger! Danger!
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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I completely agree.

Zero Tolerance laws scare people so much that they act irrationally to cover their own butt's.

This is why I am against ANY LAW or RULE that takes the ability to make exceptions out of our hands.

I also agree.

The intention is to remove thought and decision making from the process. This is partly to cover liability but there is also an element of political correctness gone mad.

And the disease is spreading .... like me, a mid 50s, greying, pot-bellied male getting carded when I try to buy a beer at the airport. I mean, I can pretend to be flattered, but that doesn't change the fact that it is ridiculous.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:16 PM
 
Location: California
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I also agree.

The intention is to remove thought and decision making from the process. This is partly to cover liability but there is also an element of political correctness gone mad.

And the disease is spreading .... like me, a mid 50s, greying, pot-bellied male getting carded when I try to buy a beer at the airport. I mean, I can pretend to be flattered, but that doesn't change the fact that it is ridiculous.
Hahahaha! I was carded a few weeks ago at Target when I bought compressed air to clean my keyboard and I'm 50. The clerk said they couldn't physically complete the transaction without swiping my DL or something. I don't know if they have the ability to override it or if the register just won't work.
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