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Old 10-13-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I can purchase a firearm with no ID

I can purchase ammo with no ID

I can carry my firearm in the open with no ID

I do not have to register my firearm
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Your "feeling" is mistaken

Often times when law enforcement busts these big time drug cartels and drug gangs - they have weaponry and ammo stashes that are friggin' unbelieveable!
Cartels maybe, but I was referring to the gang-bangers who commit the vast majority of gun crime in CA.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Cartels maybe, but I was referring to the gang-bangers who commit the vast majority of gun crime in CA.
You don't know a lot about these "gang bangers", do you? Many of them are VERY well organized. They have all the firepower they want. They can get whatever guns they want. Many "bangers" have large stashes of weapons and ammo. They have no difficulty getting whatever they want.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I can purchase a firearm with no ID

I can purchase ammo with no ID

I can carry my firearm in the open with no ID

I do not have to register my firearm

And I can carry one conceled in most states in US, including Arizona.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They have no difficulty getting whatever they want.
No, because when they need more ammo, they can just walk into WalMart and buy some more.

Actually I do know something about them: vast majority of them are no-good scumbags who carry whatever POS gun they can find, and are more than happy to use them.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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And I can carry one conceled in most states in US, including Arizona.
Judging by your gleeful defense of this new law, I would question your gun ownership claim, much less being an NRA member.
Your views are inconsistent.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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have fun californians! I just stopped by my local wallyworld and bought a bunch of handgun ammo and all I had to do was look over 21 (easy) and swipe my debit card
you all can have those retarded gun laws and all the drive-bys they don't stop.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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According to the article he is worried about felons and gang members buying it. So, all you gotta do is prove you are not a criminal, and you can buy all the ammo you want. What's the big deal? What am I missing here? When I was younger, I often had to show my ID to prove my age. Big deal.
I've read a lot of your posts Finn, so this one doesn't surprise me. This is the typical response of many on the left side of the spectrum. The old "Well, if you have nothing to hide, why worry" defense. But here's the problem with that. One, there is absolutely no reason the government needs to know how many shotgun shells I have in my possession. This is an invasion of privacy which is completely unwarranted. Do you really think this measure will do a thing to stop the sale of ammunition to criminals? They can either simply steal it, have someone buy it for them, or purchase it from the same hoods they get their illegal firearms from. Bottom line is, this is just another government measure meant to tighten the governments hold on the law abiding American citizen. Like all gun laws put in place to regulate weapons, this one will have absolutely no effect on the criminal element they claim to be targeting. It's just another measure of control put in place by a government that is already far to deep in the everyday lives of Americans. And it will provide a database which the government can use to target gun owners with plentiful ammunition should they ever decide this democracy thing just isn't working out. As usual, California is at the forefront of the communisation of this country. And this is just another step towards eventual dictatorial rule.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Judging by your gleefull defense of this new law, I would question your gun ownership claim, much less being an NRA member.
Your views are inconsistent.
Question away, but the fact remains: I am a long time gun owner, concealed weapons license holder and NRA member.

The difference between you and me is that I don't let NRA do my thinking for me. Nor does my life revolve around the 2nd amendment to a point where I would reflectively oppose any attempt to reduce gun crime. That is the only reason why I support this law: because I believe it would reduce ammo sales to criminals. There is no other reason for me to support it. But people like you who repeat everything NRA says worry me, because they have shelved common sense and replaced it with blind loyalty.

I am open to listen to all good reasons why this law is a bad idea, it's just that so far no one has offered one.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Central, IL
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And I can carry one conceled in most states in US, including Arizona.
But not Illinois...
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