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You need to open a history book. It was not the democrats who passed the Civil Rights Bill. It was the Republicans in the face of great opposition from the democrats.
It is the democrat party who has a former member of the KKK as one of their leaders after all.
The Democrats introduced the bill through JFK. And it was LBJ who essentially brought the bill to the House floor after it was being held in a committee. You are right that there were certain conservative Southern Democrats who opposed the bill. However, other Democrats like Emmanuelle Celler fought those conservative Democrats. There were Republicans opposed to the bill as well. The Southern Bloc of senators who were opposed to the bill consisted of Democrats and Republicans so you can't say one party was opposed to it while the other supported it.
The bottomline is Democrats introduced it and passage of the bill required both Republicans and Democrats. What is lost in all of this is that it wouldn't have been passed without the efforts of Republicans since many Democratic senators like Robert Byrd (West Virginia) who is still an "active" senator BTW spent 14 hours in a lecture arguing against its legislation. This is why I have little respect for West Virginia. Byrd is an ex-Klansmen and outspoken critic of Civil Rights yet he continues to win re-election.
The Democrats introduced the bill through JFK. And it was LBJ who essentially brought the bill to the House floor after it was being held in a committee. You are right that there were certain conservative Southern Democrats who opposed the bill. However, other Democrats like Emmanuelle Celler fought those conservative Democrats. There were Republicans opposed to the bill as well. The Southern Bloc of senators who were opposed to the bill consisted of Democrats and Republicans so you can't say one party was opposed to it while the other supported it.
The bottomline is Democrats introduced it and passage of the bill required both Republicans and Democrats. However, Democrats introduced the bill to begin with so there will always special recognition by Blacks for the Democratic party.
You need to open a history book. It was not the democrats who passed the Civil Rights Bill. It was the Republicans in the face of great opposition from the democrats.
1. Name the president and his party who on June 25, 1941 issued Executive Order 8802?
2. Name the president and his party who on July 26, 1948 issued Executive Order 9981?
3. Name the president and his party who appointed the vast majority of Justices to the Supreme Court who decided Brown v. Board of Education
4. Name the president and his party who on June 11, 1963, introduced the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It would ahistorical to claim that there wasn't wasn't Democratic opposition to the bill just as it would be a mendacious attempt to claim that there was unified Republican support.
The Vote yea/ney on The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88-352, 78 Stat. 241, July 2, 1964)
The House
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
The Senate
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)
What is more telling about the vote isn't based upon party affiliation but by region:
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)
If you exclude Southern Democrats (for obvious reasons) and Republicans, the majorities in favor amongst Democrats out weighs support even amongst northern Republicans.
It was a nice try though.
And as a student of history, are you seriously going to attempt to claim that the Democratic Party or the Republican Party make up is the same today as it was in 1964?
I like how you "framed" this. Highlighting the measly TEN southern republicans yet ignoring the almost 90 southern democrats who were opposed. Face the facts, along with the statistics, it passed due to overwhelming support from republicans. Nice try though trying to divorce the democratic party from it's racist roots. According to the statistics, approx 40% of democrats voted "nay".
I like how you "framed" this. Highlighting the measly TEN southern republicans yet ignoring the almost 90 southern democrats who were opposed. Face the facts, along with the statistics, it passed due to overwhelming support from republicans.
I ignored nothing since those numbers were clearly stated in my posts.
As you say, percentages speak for themselves,
100% of southern Republican Senators opposed the civil rights act.
95% of southern Democratic Senators opposed the civil rights act.
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Nice try though trying to divorce the democratic party from it's racist roots.
Try to divorce? More like have divorced.
The only problem is your attempt to ignore that the Republicans have married our cast offs.
Forget that it's Limbaugh.......those are to real black women talking. Poor
uneducated and defeated to the extent that they blindly follow the the welfare mandate.
I feel truly sad that my people will not wake up and broker their power with other parties.
Other than the Republicans though, I would hope, since they're racist bigots. You don't see many black Republican politicians. You won't see many blacks invited as guests to their fancy clubs either...or to their homes.
You need to open a history book. It was not the democrats who passed the Civil Rights Bill. It was the Republicans in the face of great opposition from the democrats.
It is the democrat party who has a former member of the KKK as one of their leaders after all.
I agree.
"The chief opponents of the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Al Gore Sr., and Robert Byrd. Former presidential candidate Richard Nixon(R) lobbied hard for the passage of this bill. In the final vote, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed 289 to 124. In the total, 80% of the Republicans but only 63% of the Democrats voted yes.
The 1965 Voting Rights Act was passed, and authorized the federal government to abolish literacy tests. In it, 17 Democrats and one Republican voted no. The Republicans actually helped create the NAACP to counter racist practices of the Democrats."
"Even though JFK was praised as a civil rights activist, as a senator he actually voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act. As president, he opposed the 1963 March on Washington by MLK Jr. JFK also had his brother Attorney General Robert Kennedy wiretap MLK Jr., and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a communist.
Most don’t realize it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen (Il), not LBJ, who was the key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964, 1965, and 1968. Dirksen actually wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act, and for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. MLK Jr. hailed Senator Dirksen, due to his long record of championing civil rights legislation, for his “able and courageous leadership”."
OpinionEditorials.com – Blacks Monolithically Voting for One party - Roeten (http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/kroeten_20081012.html - broken link)
Hmph. It could NOT have passed had some Democrats not voted for it. It passed because at least some of them did. Not the ones from the southern states, admittedly, but others did.
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