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Old 10-15-2009, 06:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mercury Cougar View Post
Actually "pal" it's a valid question. If you don't act to back up your 'morals' then you're just another hypocrite.
I act to "back up my morals" by fathering, and raising kids to be healthy, responsible, moral citizens of this country. I "back up my morals" by giving my kids the opportunity to do so.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:31 PM
 
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I would say, you've a weird understanding of the word "shame". Let me repeat... would have been great if you could take thoses fetuses, carry them, give birth and raise them. Let us really hope this becomes a possibility sometime very soon, so the hypocrites who babble about "individual freedom" can be put to rest besides the endless idiocy that is being anti-choice.
So you're argument is that every man should have to experience the child-birth process instead of advocating that this woman should have given her twins a chance at life via adoption?

Revenge against men instead of a fruitful life for those children? That's really the focus of your argument?

I'll say it again, you folks are vile, shameless people.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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No. Everyone who uses in vitro fertilization has multiple embryos inserted, and no one expects them all to implant, most especially not EIGHT. And once they did implant, she did exactly what all you anti-abortion people demand. And yet, she didn't even escape your loathing then! I read the article. Every word of it. She couldn't afford it, both financially and physically. Carrying multiples is a high risk pregnancy. She was going to have to go on forced bed rest at 20 weeks for the remainder of her pregnancy, and she would be prevented from flying at 15 weeks. Ultimately she expected to lose nearly a year's worth of income. That made it unaffordable to her. That, along with the physical risks of carrying any pregnancy to term, let alone multiples, drove her decision to reduce to only one baby.
Heaven forbid that she go through what billions of women go through every year. Just as I said before, since it's legal, its moral.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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Its amazing that you continue to believe that only Liberals have abortion. Snap out of it
I don't believe that only liberals have abortions. It is a fact that the liberal left advocates for the right of a woman to choose to abort 2 of 3 babies for her convenience. Not because her life was in danger. Not because her babies' lives were in danger. But because she couldn't fathom buying large jars of mayonnaise at Costco (her words, not mine). Her career was worth more to her than the lives of the two babies that she was carrying. And you people support that. Unbelievable.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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By the way, I notice that each of you that support this woman fails to mention that she openly acknowledged that the potassium chloride that she had administered stopped two beating hearts.

I don't see how you people sleep at night supporting this kind of violence.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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Good luck getting an answer to that question. I have asked that repeatedly what pro-life organizations and their supporters are doing to support women financially through their pregancies, and when the babies are born. The answer is a big fat nothing. Then when people openly state they cannot afford to care for their children these same armchair activists are accusing them of being irresponsible unworthy parents. Huh!
Typical liberal. Instead of asking who is going to support these women financially, you should be asking if these men and women have ever heard of condoms, birth control pills, or abstinence. It's really not a hard concept. Accidents do happen, but thats when its time to step up and take responsibility for your actions.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yes.

Better that she be responsible and have only as many children as she can afford to care for, than to be in a similar situation to "Octomom" (even if on a slightly smaller scale), who everyone in their brother criticized for not doing selective reduction.
Yep yep.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Heaven forbid that she go through what billions of women go through every year.
Possible maternal complications of multiple pregnancy include:

Miscarriage.
Anemia.
High blood pressure and organ damage (preeclampsia).
Excessive bleeding (hemorrhage).
Increased chance of cesarean delivery.
Too much amniotic fluid (polyhydramnios).
Problems with the placenta, such as placenta abruptio or placenta previa.

Common fetal complications of multiple pregnancy include:

Increased chance of giving birth before 37 weeks (premature delivery), which poses greater risks of illness, disability, and death.

Less common fetal complications include:

Increased risk of birth defects and genetic disorders.

YOU don't get to decide which of these risks are worth taking when it's not YOU facing them.
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Just as I said before, since it's legal, its moral.
No, you've got it backwards. It's legal because it's moral to afford women the freedom to do with their own bodies as they choose.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Her story, her words. She just couldn't stand the idea of interrupting her life to raise 3 kids.

And liberals support her "choice" to do this.

Shameful.
You bet I support her right to do that. Her body, her choice. Nothing shameful about it. You make it sound like having three babies at one time is a piece of cake, no big deal. "interrupting her life"??? Do you think that having children is a small commitment for a few years? You don't "interrupt" your life to raise children; when you have children, your life is raising children. Your life changes when you have children; it changes forever. How cavalier of you to make so little out of parenthood.

And complete ignore the dangers to her health that having three children could cause as if her life and health are of no importance. Women don't count, just fetuses.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Or better yet, we couldn't convince her to give them up for adoption instead.

You folks are vile, shameless people.
How many have you adopted?

2 here.

And I support her choice.
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