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I'm not sure if it's because bleeding hearts want everyone to be equal in station, or if they're just hoping for the best....that politicians have our best interest in mind.
Either choice is reckless
do they all really have "our" best interests in mind? ...really?...lol....i think a few do but the ones behind the big curtain defiantly have an evil agenda that goes far beyond this bill....this bill is just a small step into their dominance of the world
I've just emailed all of the representatives of my state regarding the vote on Health Care reform.
If you haven't already, let your voice be heard today.
It may be too late to do any good but it just may make a difference.
Even if it doesn't do any good, I was able to get my real feelings off my chest about how things are being handled and the future of the Republican party.
Some of these politicians are so full of themselves and the attention that they are getting right now that they seem to have lost focus on who they represent and who put them in office.
Some of them need not to be re-elected.
Health INSURANCE does not equal CARE. Plain and simple. And it's true: the democrats received more money in campaign contributions from the health insurance/care industry than the republicans before the 2008 election.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
If you can't pay, you die. It is that simple. One thing you could do if you just want to stay alive is give up your freedom and rob a bank. If you are successful, you can buy your medicine. If you get caught and go to jail, your prescription will be given to you free. His choice.
He/she could just go to emergency at the hospital, clog up the system, be cared for, have his/her family sue the hospital and doctors for letting him die and then our insurance costs could go up to offset the increased malpractice insurance.
Perhaps we need to get TORTE reform in place first. Then drop Malpractice rates for docs and then we can LOWER COSTS that way.
I do believe in getting rid of pre-existing condition clauses.
Health INSURANCE does not equal CARE. Plain and simple.
And it's true: the democrats received more money in campaign contributions from the health insurance/care industry than the republicans before the 2008 election.
The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Interesting point.... in light of where the "reform" is right now.
He/she could just go to emergency at the hospital, clog up the system, be cared for, have his/her family sue the hospital and doctors for letting him die and then our insurance costs could go up to offset the increased malpractice insurance.
Perhaps we need to get TORTE reform in place first. Then drop Malpractice rates for docs and then we can LOWER COSTS that way.
I do believe in getting rid of pre-existing condition clauses.
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I've posted this before and will keep posting it as long as some people assert without any evidence that "torte reform" (sic) will lower healthcare costs significantly.
The reality is the math just doesn't work. According to the Congressional Budget Office about 1% of all healthcare costs can be blamed on medical malpractice costs. In other words, you could totally abolish the entire right of any patient to recover damages no matter how badly he was victimized by physicians or hospitals and you'd save about 1% of all healthcare costs. You'd also eliminate the only quality control on medical care that exists outside the medical system. Maybe some are comfortable leaving the "fox in charge of the henhouse", I'm not.
I'm actually not totally opposed to changing medical malpractice laws. However, anyone who believes doing so will substantially curtail healthcare costs is simply mistaken.
He/she could just go to emergency at the hospital, clog up the system, be cared for, have his/her family sue the hospital and doctors for letting him die and then our insurance costs could go up to offset the increased malpractice insurance.
Perhaps we need to get TORTE reform in place first. Then drop Malpractice rates for docs and then we can LOWER COSTS that way.
I do believe in getting rid of pre-existing condition clauses.
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I've posted this before and will keep posting it as long as some people assert without any evidence that "torte reform" (sic) will lower healthcare costs significantly.
The reality is the math just doesn't work. According to the Congressional Budget Office about 1% of all healthcare costs can be blamed on medical malpractice costs. In other words, you could totally abolish the entire right of any patient to recover damages no matter how badly he was victimized by physicians or hospitals and you'd save about 1% of all healthcare costs. You'd also eliminate the only quality control on medical care that exists outside the medical system. Maybe some are comfortable leaving the "fox in charge of the henhouse", I'm not.
I'm actually not totally opposed to changing medical malpractice laws. However, anyone who believes doing so will substantially curtail healthcare costs is simply mistaken.
He/she could just go to emergency at the hospital, clog up the system, be cared for, have his/her family sue the hospital and doctors for letting him die and then our insurance costs could go up to offset the increased malpractice insurance.
Perhaps we need to get TORTE reform in place first. Then drop Malpractice rates for docs and then we can LOWER COSTS that way.
I do believe in getting rid of pre-existing condition clauses.
.................................................. ..............................................
I've posted this before and will keep posting it as long as some people assert without any evidence that "torte reform" (sic) will lower healthcare costs significantly.
The reality is the math just doesn't work. According to the Congressional Budget Office about 1% of all healthcare costs can be blamed on medical malpractice costs. In other words, you could totally abolish the entire right of any patient to recover damages no matter how badly he was victimized by physicians or hospitals and you'd save about 1% of all healthcare costs. You'd also eliminate the only quality control on medical care that exists outside the medical system. Maybe some are comfortable leaving the "fox in charge of the henhouse", I'm not.
I'm actually not totally opposed to changing medical malpractice laws. However, anyone who believes doing so will substantially curtail healthcare costs is simply mistaken.
More recent research has yielded additional evidence that tort reform reduces the use of
health care services. Lakdawalla and Seabury (2009) and Baicker, Fisher, and Chandra
(2007), using data on hospitals’ total expenditures and Medicare’s spending for Part A
and Part B services, found that reductions in the cost of medical liability lowered health
care expenditures.1 In addition, Avraham, Dafny, and Schanzenbach (2009) found that
several types of reform significantly lowered the costs of health plans offered by selfinsured
employers.
I am writing this to give a Canadian view of our Health Care system. We can see many American TV stations in Vancouver so I know what you are being told. Much is untrue and most of the rest is misrepresented. This I find is very upsetting.
Here is my own and two friends personal experiences over the last 6 months. After a party in June I crossed a very dark lawn and fell off the curb flat on my face. Since I was unconcious and there was blood my wife called the ambulance. I was taken to emergency on a back board at 1 AM. Three hours later my neck was Xrayed and an hour later I had a CT scan. Everthing was OK and I went home.
My friend fell on the ice while curling and broke her hip on a Sunday afternoon, she had a full hip replacement Monday morning.
Another friend was diagnosed on a routine exam as requiring a heart
5 bypass operation 3 weeks ago. It as done 5 days later. He is now home and well.
I don't think we would have had any quicker service in an American Hospital.We were not kept waiting for weeks or months as you are being led to believe.
I was diagnosed with advanced arthritis in my hip. From the time I saw my family DR to my surgery was 8 weeks. The average waiting time where I live for elective Hip replacement is 8 weeks. Some more rural areas can be longer.
As in every system ours is not perfect and horror stories pop up which make news. These are the exception and not the rule. On American TV these worse cases are being portrayed as the norm. I watched a so called documentary on CNN. In the half hour I listened we were told that in Canada we would wait a year or years for all hip replacements. It was mentioned at least 6 thimes that in Canada we could not choose our Dr, the Govt. would assign us one. NOT true, we choose our GP and specialist.It was said that thousands of Canadians were going to the US for treatment they could not get in Canada. There are those, not a lot, who do (a) because they can afford it, if you are very rich why not pay instead of waiting a couple of months for a new hip. (b) Those who have an axe to grind at home or always want a second opinion, etc.
I did not reconize the Canada that was being portrayed. If the condition is serious we receive immediate care, if elective and not serious we could end up waiting like I did for my hip. I understand this operation would have cost between 35,000 and 45,000 in the states.
The average life expectancy of a Canadian is 81.2 years, an American 78.1 years. The 5 year infant mortality rate of a Canadian 5.9 and American 7.8.
Does this sound like a country where people are dieing like flys in our hospitals?
The present system is making a lot of money for your insurance companies and the multinational Drug companies. They do not want to loose this so be very careful what you believe.
Anyway on a recent poll 82 % of Canadians said the would prefer our system as apposed to 8 % who would prefer the American one.See ChicagotribuneChange of Subject: Never mind the anecdotes: Do Canadians like their health-care system?
It is none of my business which system you eventually adopt, it is up to Americans to decide that but please get your facts straight.
I AM VERY ANGRY ABOUT MY COUNTRY BEING SO BADLY MISREPRESENTED.
From what facts we can discern, we know :
a) that health care reform does NOT reduce cost, increase number of doctors, increase number of hospital beds, or rein in torts;
b) that increasing the size of the bureaucracy 'managing' health care cannot but cost us more;
c) that preserving the power and wealth of certain government granted monopolies will hurt us;
d) that increasing the debt, and the future taxes needed to pay it, is not reducing the burdens placed upon Americans.
So we know that Congress and the President lied to us about the urgency for their meddling.
Since the U.S. government desperately needs more revenue streams to cover the impossible to pay national debt, it appears that the government had to pass this abomination for their own health. For they are in a deadly embrace with usurers, who are choking them to death, and they, in turn, have shifted some of that embrace to each duly enumerated "human resource", whose very life will be at their tender mercies.
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A Canadians view of Canadian Healthcare
