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Old 10-20-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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More Cheez-Whiz history. Obama has extended a hand across the aisle time and time again only to see it slapped away. He has time and time again frustrated the liberal wing of his own party by insisting on governing from the center when he could just steamroller the Republicans and be done with them. It's the Republicans who are the spoiled brat whiners and screamers in this scenario. Almost to a man or woman (how many women do they have again?) they refuse to work with the President on any effort for any purpose. They ar the PARTY OF NO. That's their plan and they are sticking to it.
There are many incorrect statements here - but the most glaring - obama doesn't need the other party to get anything done. What you and other leftists forget is it is his own party that is giving him ulcers.

Please, give me ANY examples of republicans included in negotiations. Health Care? No. Reid, Rahm, Pelosi, WH are closeted crafting the bill.

Stimulus? No. Republicans shut out.

GM and Chrysler? No? Shut out.

I await your response.
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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He is a failure and a socialist surrounded by communists...
And Joe America is OWNED by Chinese Communist$$$$$$$$$. That is the worst thing to happen to the US in my lifetime. The white hat cowboys were supposed to halt Communism. Truly a disgrace being so deep in debt.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:06 PM
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if you dislike obama, educate yourself on the issues he supports or doesnt support and the policies he hopes to implement. then form your opinion. stop going after the guy with pot shots like "he hasnt done anything".

this is the stuff that makes liberals look so silly when they say "i hate bush" when they have no clue what they are talking about.

Remember my fellow republicans, the silly uneducated political potshots go both ways. They call us teabaggers, we sarcastically call obama "the messiah" or "the chosen one" instead of forming reasonable arguments prompting intelligent debate.

You shouldnt even be posting on this forum if you arent somewhat open minded. this is a forum for discussion not for downright unintelligible arguments.
Craig, if anyone needs to open their eyes, it may be you. There is no intelligent "debate" to be made here, it is what it is. This administration has hijacked our country, plain and simple. They are giving in to the America haters of the world and are doing exactly what they want them to do...Bring America down to their level, economically, militarily and socially. Why do you think Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? For doing just what I said. Being open minded DOES NOT include accepting or even debating in any way, shape or form the destruction of the American system and way of life. The people occupying the WH right now are revolutionaries, with the sole intent of toppling Capitalism and the American way. You may or may not agree with this, but it's going to be awfully hard to deny it when the majority of Americans are out of work, the country is COMPLETELY bankrupt, the dollar crashes and is no longer used to trade oil, you can't speak out in opposition, you can't afford to heat or cool your home due to Cap and Trade AND god forbid this New World Order BS that is being sold to us as climate change takes shape...etc. the list goes on and on. Maybe then, and I said MAYBE then, you will understand what's really going on.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I'm curious to hear what Obama failed on, would you care to elaborate?
Failed economy. Failed in creating new jobs. Failed in keeping existing jobs. Failing in Afghanistan. Failed with his promise to catch bin-Laden. Failed at his promise to close Guantanamo Bay. Failed in his promise to protect gays in the military. Failed to date with healthcare reform. Failed to unite the country. Failed to turn around Detroit automakers. Failed. . . .
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Craig, if anyone needs to open their eyes, it may be you. There is no intelligent "debate" to be made here, it is what it is. This administration has hijacked our country, plain and simple. They are giving in to the America haters of the world and are doing exactly what they want them to do...Bring America down to their level, economically, militarily and socially. Why do you think Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? For doing just what I said. Being open minded DOES NOT include accepting or even debating in any way, shape or form the destruction of the American system and way of life. The people occupying the WH right now are revolutionaries, with the sole intent of toppling Capitalism and the American way. You may or may not agree with this, but it's going to be awfully hard to deny it when the majority of Americans are out of work, the country is COMPLETELY bankrupt, the dollar crashes and is no longer used to trade oil, you can't speak out in opposition, you can't afford to heat or cool your home due to Cap and Trade AND god forbid this New World Order BS that is being sold to us as climate change takes shape...etc. the list goes on and on. Maybe then, and I said MAYBE then, you will understand what's really going on.
If you are posting your opinion on here, but not open minded yourself you are doing one of two things:

1. Wasting your time
2. being a hypocrite

I came around here looking for some intelligent discussion. the world will cease to evolve if everyone refuses to at least look at an adversaries point of view.

It is just as important to read what others here write as it is for you to express your opinion.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:27 PM
obo
 
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Originally Posted by craigm1841 View Post
If you are posting your opinion on here, but not open minded yourself you are doing one of two things:

1. Wasting your time
2. being a hypocrite

I came around here looking for some intelligent discussion. the world will cease to evolve if everyone refuses to at least look at an adversaries point of view.

It is just as important to read what others here write as it is for you to express your opinion.
If you want to debate what is the best way to bring the country to it's knees then be my guest. Like I said, you're not going to get intellectual DEBATE in any form whatsoever from the opposing side, it's ALL OBAMA KNOWS BEST! Our country sure will cease to EXIST if we entertain the things they want implemented. Go ahead, try and have a civil conversation with any of the Obama supporters while you have a differing opinion, you WON'T get one, you will get insults and called uneducated. I'm just warning you what you are about to walk into. You may, however end some threads in a stalemate.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: PA
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Its ok just repeat after me...
Obama is your lord and savior
Gore is your God.

Amen.

Lets all watch some American Idol and go back to sleep I'm pretty sure that is what bush did for 8 years.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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I actually agree with you, because we all know that Obama wont be able to say "Wow, look at how great this nation has become during my term"...
No, with the amount of damage done to the nation by the Republicans over these past eight years, it is unlikely that even Obama can restore her to former greatness in merely four.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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I'm curious to hear what Obama failed on, would you care to elaborate?
Unemployment will never reach 10 percent...oops....

Why don't you try and show what he's accomplished?
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:39 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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No, with the amount of damage done to the nation by the Republicans over these past eight years, it is unlikely that even Obama can restore her to former greatness in merely four.
Not what he was saying during the election...

But, anyways, not all 8 years under Bush were bad. Mainly just the last 2 (which, coincidentally, were when dems held Congress). Obama has had 9 months, and he's accomplished nothing, and has gone back on several promises.
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