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Old 10-21-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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Why is that not a logical point of view.

How is the olympic games more important to the office of the president than a celebration of Eurpoean nations over the fall of communism?
again, it's not like obama took the 20 hours allotted for the berlin wall anniversary and used it to go to copenhagen. in early october he had the time to do that, in early november he won't have the time to go to berlin. skipping the copenhagen trip would not have magically made time in november. there is no implication that the olympic bid is more important (although it's arguable that a chance to bring a moneymaking and job creating event to the u.s. is more important than commemorating another country's important historical moment), it's just a matter of what his schedule was at the time and what it will be on november 9.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Why is that not a logical point of view.

How is the olympic games more important to the office of the president than a celebration of Eurpoean nations over the fall of communism?
Did my post say anything about relative "importance"? No, it did not.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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Oh, brother! How tiring must it be to think of all these conspiracy theories and innuendos. Some of you must be exhausted! Fortunately, you have the warm, blue glow of FOX News on the tube and the sweet voice of Rush on the radio to keep you going.

Hey, I heard Obama likes to wear red underwear. That must mean something...but what?

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Old 10-21-2009, 09:51 AM
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I heard Obama likes to wear red underwear. Any connection?
I also heard that he met his wife in a Russian language class during the cold war. Any connection?
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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Why does he have to be in the White House ? What if it was being tented for termites ? I guess people expect all generals to STAY in the Pentagon. All cooks to STAY in the kitchen. This is 2009. Instant messaging. and ya know Zionist Joe is at the helm if anything goes kaplooey with Israel, or Iran, and Obama can fly straight to Tel aviv, then Iran. It's all in a day's work. peace. V
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He's flying over at night after a day in the office. He'll sleep in route (I suppose some will gripe about Obama getting a night's sleep).

Then he'll go pitch his case for the Olympics being held in America, he'll get back on the plane and fly home.


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Obama will be on the ground a whooping 5 hours TOTAL. Only a Republican would be offended by Obama being patriotic and promoting the USA!


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I guess multi-tasking has gone the way of the dinosaur apparently? He's the first president to do something like this....I really don't understand your hysteria over it.


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Do people actually think the only work the President does is done "in the White House"? As if he needs to sit behind a desk and do paperwork, signing things, stamping stuff? I get the feeling nobody really knows what Presidents do.


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And this is for the 2016 Olympics. And he's going for how long? Oh - ONE DAY!


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It's a one day trip, if even. I for one want the olympics to come to Chicago. I live in Milwaukee & it would be great for our city as well as for Madison. Why don't you start thinking about other people in this country for a change instead of focusing needless energy on whining about inconsequential things? Talk about selfish.


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no its called diplomacy and damage control after 8 years of bull in the china shop.


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This isnt a "vacation". He's going to be there exactly one day. Is that hard to grasp?


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Yes...memo. What year do you think it is, I'm curious? You've heard of blackberry's, right?


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I'm just curious. Since the world as we know it is going to end because President Obama spends 18 hours going to Denmark and back to attempt to gain the Olympics for our country, thereby gaining thousands of jobs and millions of dollars, how is it that we survived George Bush spending 4 days in China WATCHING the Olympics while the two wars he started raged on and the economy he destroyed circled the drain?



So... there were all kinds of excuses as to why he COULD attend the olympic bid announcement, yet none of those excuses hold true for this celebration.

Odd, did his blackberry break? Is airforce one grounded? Can he not complete his work on the plane the same that he did when he was flying to Coppenhagen?

Whats the catch here? Or is the truth that the Obama brigade will just defend his actions and inactions regardless of logic?
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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Whats the catch here? Or is the truth that the Obama brigade will just defend his actions and inactions regardless of logic?
The truth is that the Obama haters will just blast his actions and inactions regardless of logic.

groar is right; had he decided to make this trip, you and your ilk would have posted a thread like this:
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Not Surprising: Obama leaving America to cow tow to the Europeans AGAIN

Socialist Commie Fascist Anti-American Filth. What about health care? He just wants to distract us from the REAL issues because he's LOSING on his government takeover bid for control of our bodies! He needs to stay the hell home and do what he promised to do during his campaign. Oh, that's right, HE'S BROKEN ALL HIS PROMISES SO FAR. Every Single One Of Them! He's nothing but a socialist-loving liar!
You guys are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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What a witty little exchange between obo & enigmaingr in mocking anti-Obama people. How creative (sarcasm)

Sometimes people make it too easy. I mean, come on...some of this conjecture is so far off the wall that I have to wonder if I'm reading the Onion. The controversy over the fist bump, the lapel flag pin, the school speech...it's actually going to put the Onion out of business...and possibly the Republican party unless someone wrestles control away from the Rush/Hannity/Palin crowd and gets back to the issues. Resorting to calling the President a commie or socialist every time he sneezes doesn't bode well for the future of the Republican party.

Don't get me wrong, some criticism has been legitimate and warranted. Acorn, ect. come to mind. I'm sure with enough digging, people will find legitimate dirt about the administration. Sometimes though, a rose is just a rose.

All this silly stuff is about as far-fetched as thinking Dubya had some sort of secessionist plan for Texas by vacationing at the "Western White House". Wait a minute...

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Old 10-21-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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The truth is that the Obama haters will just blast his actions and inactions regardless of logic.

groar is right; had he decided to make this trip, you and your ilk would have posted a thread like this: You guys are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.
And you are nothing more than an appeaser and supporter of illogical positions and actions.

THe olympic trip was a waste of time and resources. This trip, with its diplomatic possibilities is an oppurtunity for our nation to celebrate uncommon victories with our allies in Europe.

I would suspect even somebody like you would be able to understand the importance of it.

Just as you claim that "we would have" made dis-similar statements if he would have went... you would have too.

Face it, you support his regardless of your own obejective thinking.

He should have went.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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And you are nothing more than an appeaser and supporter of illogical positions and actions.

THe olympic trip was a waste of time and resources. This trip, with its diplomatic possibilities is an oppurtunity for our nation to celebrate uncommon victories with our allies in Europe.

I would suspect even somebody like you would be able to understand the importance of it.

Just as you claim that "we would have" made dis-similar statements if he would have went... you would have too.

Face it, you support his regardless of your own obejective thinking.

He should have went.
Now you're just making things up to suit your own biases. I disagree with President Obama on several things he's doing or not doing (his foot-dragging on repealing DADT, for starters).

And don't insult me with your nonsense that I should be able to understand the importance of the fall of the Berlin Wall. I understand it plenty, especially since I'm a JEW, whose people were tortured and murdered in that country, thankyouverymuch.

As I said in my previous post, this isn't about relative importance. I simply don't find it outrageous that the President is sending his Secretary of State in his stead.

You, on the other hand, will find any excuse to denigrate President Obama, even if it's not consistent with previous grievances against him.

He's not going. Our relationship with Germany will not suffer as a result. Get over it.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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THe olympic trip was a waste of time and resources. This trip, with its diplomatic possibilities is an oppurtunity for our nation to celebrate uncommon victories with our allies in Europe.
we don't have to guess as to whether the right wingers on this site would have attacked him had he chosen to go, because we have a completely parallel situation where the reverse happened and the right criticized him.

when he attended the d-day anniversary in france, which certainly qualifies as an "uncommon victory with our allies in europe", it was touted as obama wasting time and money on a european vacation. almost identical situation, obama took the opposite action, right wingers criticized him.

and i'm guessing that he was able to go to the olympics thing and not the german thing because his schedule allowed him to go to that and not to this. something must have come up that was more important. pretty freaking simple. for the third time, it's not like skipping copenhagen would have opened up his schedule in november to go to germany. he didn't make a choice between the two.

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