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Old 10-21-2009, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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If you're not religious, why feel the need to insult atheists? Who's the hypocrite here?
What does one have to do with the other.
Are you confused?
How do you know I'm not an atheist?
Apparently it would seem political ideology trumps any other belief system you espouse or you wouldn't pretend to be so offended.

 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:14 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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I see you have respect for other's beliefs. You receive what you give out.
Excuse me, did you notice her post? I'm simply responding to it, sorry if you have such a problem w/it. And no, I don't respect people whose beliefs cause them to become nasty judgmental insulting people. Refer to one of my earlier posts regarding a conversation w/co-workers if you need a clearer image on my view.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:15 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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What does one have to do with the other.
Are you confused?
How do you know I'm not an atheist?
Apparently it would seem political ideology trumps any other belief system you espouse or you wouldn't pretend to be so offended.
WTF are you even talking about? How does political ideology have ANYTHING to do w/religion? I think you're the confused one here.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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WTF are you even talking about? How does political ideology have ANYTHING to do w/religion? I think you're the confused one here.
uh huh
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I wish this were more true.
I see many atheists hypocritically exchanging faith in a deity, with a blind belief that government can fulfill all their needs (healthcare anyone?). This is often done at the expense of others and really just another form of "pushing" an agenda as they so often accuse organized religion of.

Last edited by allydriver; 10-21-2009 at 08:31 AM..
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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I wish this were more true.
I see many atheists hypocritically exchanging faith in a deity, with a blind belief that government can fulfill all their needs (healthcare anyone?). This is often done at the expense of others and really just another form of "pushing" an agenda as they so often accuse organized religion of.

Um. I'm sorry, but i fail to see what atheism has at all to do with healthcare. If anything, I could argue that if you truly beleive the teachings of Jesus, you should be backing a program that is going to provide care for every single american, no matter their financial situation.

And if i'm to take your quote literally - yes, I'd choose to put blind belief in a government, however inefficient, made up of policies and people and money, rather than a 'man in the sky'.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:19 AM
 
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Excuse me, did you notice her post? I'm simply responding to it, sorry if you have such a problem w/it. And no, I don't respect people whose beliefs cause them to become nasty judgmental insulting people. Refer to one of my earlier posts regarding a conversation w/co-workers if you need a clearer image on my view.
Maybe you had overbearing religious parents or family members. But that is no reason to be angry at anyone who has faith in a higher power.

Just as there is no reason for people of faith to look down upon you as a person or insult you.

Both sides have to eliminate sensitivity.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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I wish this were more true.
I see many atheists hypocritically exchanging faith in a deity, with a blind belief that government can fulfill all their needs (healthcare anyone?). This is often done at the expense of others and really just another form of "pushing" an agenda as they so often accuse organized religion of.
Your original post
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Originally Posted by allydriver View Post
What does one have to do with the other.
Are you confused?
How do you know I'm not an atheist?
Apparently it would seem political ideology trumps any other belief system you espouse or you wouldn't pretend to be so offended.
So now you're an atheist? So you insulted yourself just to get your point across about yourself? That's just...weird.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Atheist ads to adorn New York subway stations - CNN.com

Maybe this country has some hope after all...



excuse me???


SEPERATION of church and state


ATHEISM IS A RELIGION
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:21 AM
 
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Um. I'm sorry, but i fail to see what atheism has at all to do with healthcare. If anything, I could argue that if you truly beleive the teachings of Jesus, you should be backing a program that is going to provide care for every single american, no matter their financial situation.

And if i'm to take your quote literally - yes, I'd choose to put blind belief in a government, however inefficient, made up of policies and people and money, rather than a 'man in the sky'.
See when atheists say things such as "man in the sky" it just makes me believe you do not have an understanding of faith.

I can understand those who maybe were forced into religion as kids and then later rejected it. At least they have studied and learned about faith but then decided it was not for them.
 
Old 10-21-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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I wouldn't care if NYC had BIG VAST ads of Christian references on subways anymore than they would have HUGE VAST atheist signs on billboards. America is very diverse and people should accept that every group has a right to be acknowledged, especially in such a diverse city such as New York City.

So long as the ads towards any particular group isn't stereotypical or bigoted, who really cares? People are getting far too sensitive nowadays. And I'm an athesit myself.
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