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Old 10-22-2009, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Senator Lamar Alexander, who worked under Richard Nixon, suggested on the Senate floor that the political strategy of creating an Enemies List like the Nixon White House did, is a big mistake on the part of the Obama White House and that he is seeing some sign of it.

"Alexander read off a list of examples he says support his contention, including: a reported effort by the White House to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a supposed effort by the Health and Human Services Department to put a “gag order” on the insurer Humana, the White House move to take on Fox News, Obama’s repeated criticisms of banks and investment houses, his alleged “taking names” of “bondholders who resisted the GM and Chrysler bailouts,” and the president’s move to make insurers the bogeyman of the health care debate."

Alexander to White House: Don't Create 'Enemies List' - Roll Call

If you'd like to see the original Nixon enemies list and the expanded Nixon enemies list:

Nixon's Enemies List

Master list of Nixon political opponents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:48 AM
 
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Senator Lamar Alexander, who worked under Richard Nixon, suggested on the Senate floor that the political strategy of creating an Enemies List like the Nixon White House did, is a big mistake on the part of the Obama White House and that he is seeing some sign of it.

"Alexander read off a list of examples he says support his contention, including: a reported effort by the White House to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a supposed effort by the Health and Human Services Department to put a “gag order” on the insurer Humana, the White House move to take on Fox News, Obama’s repeated criticisms of banks and investment houses, his alleged “taking names” of “bondholders who resisted the GM and Chrysler bailouts,” and the president’s move to make insurers the bogeyman of the health care debate."

Alexander to White House: Don't Create 'Enemies List' - Roll Call

If you'd like to see the original Nixon enemies list and the expanded Nixon enemies list:

Nixon's Enemies List

Master list of Nixon political opponents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The shine has definately worn off Obama. Even the left wing nuts realize they put an authoritarian socialist in office who looks more like Stalin than Lincoln (the comparison he was craving during the election).

The left said Nixon's list was crazy (it was!). How many will condemn Obama? None.

Nixon enemies list- bad
Obama enemies list- good

I wonder how many lefties will end up on that list?
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Didn't any of you get the memo?
Dissent is unpatriotic now.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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Didn't any of you get the memo?
Dissent is unpatriotic now.
Only four posts in this thread and not a peep from any of the obamabots.
Hope and Change is a really nice campaign slogan.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Definately shades of Nixon. I'm beginning to think his presidency may unravel like Nixon's. Let's hope our freedom survives this nut, but seeing as how many are waking up to it, I do believe that is possible.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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I see we have the latest right wing outrage of the day...................Somebody please call the whaaabulance for these cry babies.

Keven Drum puts in in perspective for those who prefer reality.

"Nixon used the power of the presidency to harass, intimidate, and investigate those who questioned him. It was as scandalous an abuse as the nation has ever seen -- the White House used the levers of government to attack independent news outlets.

And what as the Obama team done? They've dared to point out a simple reality: an obviously-partisan propaganda outlet in not a legitimate news organization. That's it. That's the totality of the White House's efforts -- criticizing a network that operates as an arm of a political party. There's no boycott, no punishment, no vendetta. All we have here are some White House aides who've criticized a network."



Poor babies!.... Obama had his aides say something not nice about a fake news organization!

Enemies list!........Enemies list!......Enemies list!..................Whaaaaa!
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I see we have the latest right wing outrage of the day...................Somebody please call the whaaabulance for these cry babies.

Keven Drum puts in in perspective for those who prefer reality.

"Nixon used the power of the presidency to harass, intimidate, and investigate those who questioned him. It was as scandalous an abuse as the nation has ever seen -- the White House used the levers of government to attack independent news outlets.

And what as the Obama team done? They've dared to point out a simple reality: an obviously-partisan propaganda outlet in not a legitimate news organization. That's it. That's the totality of the White House's efforts -- criticizing a network that operates as an arm of a political party. There's no boycott, no punishment, no vendetta. All we have here are some White House aides who've criticized a network."



Poor babies!.... Obama had his aides say something not nice about a fake news organization!

Enemies list!........Enemies list!......Enemies list!..................Whaaaaa!
You forget about Walpin?

"In April 2008 the Corporation asked Mr. Walpin to investigate reports of irregularities at St. HOPE, a California nonprofit run by former NBA star and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson. St. HOPE had received an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant, which was supposed to go for three purposes: tutoring for Sacramento-area students; the redevelopment of several buildings; and theater and art programs.

Gerald Walpin, Inspector General of the Corporation For National and Community Service, was fired by President Barack Obama.

Mr. Walpin's investigators discovered that the money had been used instead to pad staff salaries, meddle politically in a school-board election, and have AmeriCorps members perform personal services for Mr. Johnson, including washing his car.

At the end of May, Mr. Walpin's office recommended that Mr. Johnson, an assistant and St. HOPE itself be "suspended" from receiving federal funds. The Corporation's official charged with suspensions agreed, and in September the suspension letters went out. Mr. Walpin's office also sent a civil and/or criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of California.

Mr. Walpin brought his concerns to the Corporation's board, but some board members were angry over a separate Walpin investigation into the wrongful disbursement of $80 million to the City University of New York. Concerned about the St. HOPE mess, Mr. Walpin wrote a 29-page report, signed by two other senior members of his office, and submitted it in April to Congress. Last Wednesday, he got a phone call from a White House lawyer telling him to resign within an hour or be fired."

The White House Fires a Watchdog - WSJ.com


followup

"When last we left Gerald Walpin, the unfairly fired inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service, he had filed a lawsuit on July 17 protesting his dismissal. He submitted technical amendments to his complaint on July 24, and the government was supposed to respond within 60 days. Seventy-five days later, the government still is stonewalling.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
Government lawyers Tony West, Channing Phillips, Susan Rudy and Kathryn Wyer filed for an extension until Oct. 26, explaining that they were only "recently assigned this case." It's odd, though, that when it suits the White House's political needs, it finds grounds to fire Mr. Walpin immediately, without proper notice, but when it comes to responding to his complaint, it can't manage to move fast enough to meet court rules that are entirely reasonable."

EDITORIAL: Return of Walpin-gate - Washington Times
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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I don't read editorials by the WSJ who wrote for years about "Whitewater scandals" that amounted to nothing.

Futhermore, I don't read papers owned by Moonies.


Obama fired an IG that was critized by the AG in California.


the administration detailed reasons for Walpin's termination in June 11 and June 16 letters.* Such reasons included, but were not limited to, the CNCS board's concerns over Walpin's conduct, the "lack of candor" during his tenure, a May 20 meeting in which "Walpin was confused, disoriented, [and] unable to answer questions," and a complaint filed by acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of California Lawrence G. Brown regarding Walpin's actions during his investigation into the misuse of AmeriCorps grants given to a nonprofit organization in Sacramento, California. In his April 29 letter, Brown alleged that Walpin and his staff "did not include" or "disclose" relevant information regarding the case to Brown's office; that Walpin repeatedly discussed the case in the press after being advised "under no circumstance was he to communicate with the media about a matter under investigation"; and that Walpin's "actions were hindering our investigation and handling of this matter."



If you have some evidence of wrong doing .....tell us?. What's the charge specifically?

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Old 10-22-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Only four posts in this thread and not a peep from any of the obamabots.
Hope and Change is a really nice campaign slogan.
Sometimes it's just too tiresome to reply to every right-wing lie you people post.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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[quote=padcrasher;11298088]I see we have the latest right wing outrage of the day...................Somebody please call the whaaabulance for these cry babies.

Keven Drum puts in in perspective for those who prefer reality.

"Nixon used the power of the presidency to harass, intimidate, and investigate those who questioned him. It was as scandalous an abuse as the nation has ever seen -- the White House used the levers of government to attack independent news outlets.

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Which part of this doesnt apply to Obama?

Obama has threatened businesses that have not been supportive of his plans with Anti-Trust action.

He has within the last week, made threats againt the U. S. Chamber of Commerse.

He has clearly put Fox off limits and all other news outlets on notice that if they follow Fox they will pay.

It is EXACTLY what Nixon did. YOU are the fool for thinking that Obama is not doing what Nixon did. The tables will eventually turn.
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