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Old 10-24-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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From the date here it seems that Ben Stein figured The Man out a bit sooner than I did but I had already come to all the conclusions he had when I saw this article. Yep, Ben and I have figured The Man out, now we are waiting on the rest of you.

The American Spectator : We've Figured Him Out
Employer based Health Care is a yoke around the neck of both employer and employee with the Insurance Companies cracking the whip

You have no idea how little I care about Ben Stein
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I'm not sure that the Clinton Army would have been much better than the old Chicago gang that is in the White House now. I don't think they would have tried to cram socialism down our throats as fast so maybe she would have been better.
Still Hillary gave Iran an ok to pursue nukes. That is treason as far as I am concerned.
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Still Hillary gave Iran an ok to pursue nukes. That is treason as far as I am concerned.
Hillary is not in charge though so her "ok" had to have been "ok'd" higher up the chain.

And since when has Iran listened to any "request" or "ultimatim" from any world group ?
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Old 10-24-2009, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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The one thing that no Liberal, Democrat, Independent or Republican who voted for Obama can hide under a rock about, is that they took it on "faith". Because Obama lacks business experience, lacks executive experience, and lacked transparency about his life and records through and through.

They could argue about some current events now, but there is no way they can run and hide from the responsibility of voting in someone primarily on a promise of hope and change.

The Gullible ones.



My estimation is that Romney would have been the best of everyone to tackle the business, financial and employment issues. That's his specialty. When you need brain surgery, you don't hire a castration specialist.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The one thing that no Liberal, Democrat, Independent or Republican who voted for Obama can hide under a rock about, is that they took it on "faith".

Because Obama lacks business experience, lacks executive experience, and lacked transparency about his life and records through and through.

They could argue about some current events now, but there is no way they can run and hide from the responsibility of voting in someone primarily on a promise of hope and change.

The Gullible ones.

Nice post. You know that would explain their defense position of always bashing Bush. They have no history of past Obama achievements.

I mean..how can you defend a guy with no past ? No one can really point to articles before January 2009 on Obama.

You are right..it's blind faith and hope.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Wow, people really do take the OPINION of someone as literal truth! That is really sad.
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Old 10-24-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wow, people really do take the OPINION of someone as literal truth! That is really sad.
Opinions have their place. They can get you thinking, questioning and then looking for facts to either back it up or refute it.

One should never be so closed minded to opinion pieces.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:01 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Opinions have their place. They can get you thinking, questioning and then looking for facts to either back it up or refute it.

One should never be so closed minded to opinion pieces.
Please, just read the posts following the OP's post.

If people actually did start looking for facts that's great, but it didn't happen in this thread.

I am open-minded. I read the opinion; there were a lot of claims made with no backup references. How many will actually take the time to do research?
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:11 PM
 
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Ben Stein can break it down so perfectly. Good post.

Now, Americans are waking up to the truth that ObamaCare basically means that every time you are sick or injured, you will have a clerk from the Department of Motor Vehicles telling your doctor what he can and cannot do. American Spectator

And what kills me is so many posters here seem perfectly okay with this.
? That's not true, sorry. Fun to repeat I guess, but not true. Im surprised at Ben Stein, thought he had a little more on the ball than this.

Right now with your current insurance there are procedures that are fully covered, partially covered, not covered. Does that mean a clerk from the insurance company is standing between you and your doctor, telling him what he can and cannot do?
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Because they think they are going to get it for free.
No, more because they are tired of being robbed of an extra 15% each year by private insurance companies who then do all they can to prevent policy holders from actually receiving health care while paying themselves monster salaries at our expense and building on our dime the great towers that define the skyline of so many Amercian cities.

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Remember almost 1/2 of Americans do not pay Federal income tax.
Remember that that's a crock. Half of those people appear to pay no taxes because we administer two major income support programs through the IRS. If you are due $5000 in benefits but owe $2200 in taxes, you receive a check for only $2800, but you still get counted as having paid no taxes. Kind of ridiculous, wouldn't you say?

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Entitlement has taken over this country.
Disinformation has a big lead on entitlement.
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