Should Health Insurance be Mandatory? (lawyer, Christmas, high school, elect)

[TristansMommy]

Originally Posted by pghquest

Great, you care for me soo much that you are willing to cut a check for my care.

Where should I send the bill to?

Well, if you don't have insurance I and the rest of the citizens of this country are most certainly cutting a check for your care

I , for one, am not whining about developing a system that actually provides and allows for access to health care for EVERYONE..

Health Care reform is nOT about giving anything FREE to anyone.. the ones who need FREE health care are already getting it through medicaid..Which, btw, if you need you can apply for and we will all be cutting checks for your care as well....

This is about a system that allows all of us who do not qualify for the "free" health care ie: medicaid, to pay into it just like everyone else....

so .. yes.. i care enough to adopt a system that gives access to affordable health care for all....

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

LOL. um.. surgical procedures fall under the health care issue..

We are talking about mandating health INSURANCE. We are talking if there should, or should not, be fines.

We are not talking about reattachment of a leg

As the originator of this thread, I am respectfully asking YOU and everyone else to try to stay on topic

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by Boompa

Not Mandatory, UNIVERSAL, it should cover everyone

What, the insurance or the health care?

[PurpleLove08]

Originally Posted by pghquest

So you want to abolish all insurance than? That is an interesting proposal..

Not what you meant? Then who do you think would be better suited to decide your life? The government? The individuals that give you a number and could care less what your name is?

Seriously, if not the insurance companies, who would be better suited to decide your life if not yourself?

I want patients and doctors to be able to decide what the appropriate treatment is. I don't want insurance companies or the government in the way.

With a single payer system, the government is just a payer.

I don't want the CEO with an incentive to deny me care so he can get a new BMW nor do I want some old anti-gay Republican denying people care either.

[TristansMommy]

[quote=Greatday;11359729]

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

LOL. um.. surgical procedures fall under the health care issue..

We are talking about mandating health INSURANCE. We are talking if there should, or should not, be fines.

We are not talking about reattachment of a leg

As the originator of this thread, I am respectfully asking YOU and everyone else to try to stay on topic

Want to pick a bone (pun intended) about re-attaching hte leg.. then address the individual who actually brought it into the discussion with their initial post..

Once it's introduced, it's open to discussion.. and he was pointing to one example of which I was countering..

Don't like what I post.. don't read it.. you may have started the thread but you certainly don't own the forum... heck you don't own the thread either.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

Well, if you don't have insurance I and the rest of the citizens of this country are most certainly cutting a check for your care

As of yet, you havent... There might come a day when I cant afford my hospital visits at which time I would advise my family to pull the plug so I dont burden them with high medical bills. Why would I expect you to pay for my care if I wouldnt expect them to?

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

This is about a system that allows all of us who do not qualify for the "free" health care

Translation ME..

Originally Posted by TristansMommy

so .. yes.. i care enough to adopt a system that gives access to affordable health care for all....

I checked for your message with your address so I can forward a bill for my healthcare, didnt see one. Is it safe to assume you dont really want to pay for my care, you just want others to pay for yours?

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by PurpleLove08

I want patients and doctors to be able to decide what the appropriate treatment is. I don't want insurance companies or the government in the way.

Up to this point, I agree with you.

Originally Posted by PurpleLove08

With a single payer system, the government is just a payer.

You dont think the government decides what the appropriate treatment is now for people on government care? How is them being the payer any different than an insurance company, or YOU for example, paying for your own care?

Originally Posted by PurpleLove08

I don't want the CEO with an incentive to deny me care so he can get a new BMW nor do I want some old anti-gay Republican denying people care either.

That sounds good in fantasy land, but in reality if an insurance company denies you approprate care that you have contracted them to provide you with, they get sued at the butt.. Stop the class envy because I'm sure even you will be able to afford a BMW one day. The old "Republicans" going to kill me argument is about as pathetic as those who claimed Obama was going to do the same. Really, get a new argument and try to have a civil discussion without the name calling, it adds nothing to your argument.

[TristansMommy]

Originally Posted by pghquest

As of yet, you havent... There might come a day when I cant afford my hospital visits at which time I would advise my family to pull the plug so I dont burden them with high medical bills. Why would I expect you to pay for my care if I wouldnt expect them to?

Translation ME..

I checked for your message with your address so I can forward a bill for my healthcare, didnt see one. Is it safe to assume you dont really want to pay for my care, you just want others to pay for yours?

LOL.. your argument is absurd and your drivle is just that.

Countless times I have said on many threads that health care reform is NOT about FREE health care. If I wanted someone else to pay for my medical care I would stop producing income and fall below the poverty level and get it for FREE already.. so how about we get off the argument that I want FREE health care and others to pay for it.

Secondly.. this discussion is about mandating health insurance so that EVERYONE that doesn't qualify for FREE health insurance (medicaid) MUST pay INTO the "system" so to speak so that they actually DO end up paying for their care!!! SO.. hence your argument about wanting someone else to pay for my care.. or any other person on this thread that wants mandated coverage is .. well quite ridiculous, and absurd..

Great.. YOU want to pull your own plug.. good for you.. I am NOT uninsured by choice.. and I DO NOT wish to die, nor do I deserve to die because I do not have health insurance.

I would agree with the "not receive care" if they ignore the mandate for insurance as opposed to fees.. but that is not at all practical, as it would never happen (getting kicked to the curb should they not be insured)....

Actually .. the system NOW in place is forcing the uninsured to actually receive care at the cost of everyone else by shutting us out from purchasing insurance, which is the access to care, or causing the default on payments due to lack of available money to pay for procedures.. etc.

[NCyank]

Originally Posted by Greatday

We are talking about mandating health INSURANCE. We are talking if there should, or should not, be fines.

We are not talking about reattachment of a leg

As the originator of this thread, I am respectfully asking YOU and everyone else to try to stay on topic

Regarding the leg and whether or not to reattach, I was giving an example to answer your second question. I assumed that would still be on topic since it was addressed in the OP.

The question of the day is, Should Health Insurance be mandatory? And if so, and someone does not have health insurance, what should happen to them?

[Peggy Anne]

Health insurance should be so cheap that no one has an excuse NOT to be covered, and it should be a one time payment to cover a year. The private/if/ insurer should also carry insurance to assure that the insured don't get shafted if they go out of business. Government insurance should be based on a sliding scale, and ability to pay. Some people are poor. Mandatory, but no one goes to jail, or gets fined because the government can't refuse to cover them. Couldn't the government take some coverage money out of an IRS refund ? You file, and check a box please add 400 dollars to my health coverage. Any sane fair mandatory plan should work for all. Even the guy down by the river should be covered by the government for his health woes.