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Old 10-29-2009, 10:00 PM
 
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I don't even want to look. It would just sicken me even further.

Have you read Amazon.com: Hostile Takeover: How Big Money and Corruption Conquered Our Government--And How We Take It Back (9780307237354): David Sirota: Books ?

I've always known many of the people in Congress were corrupt. I've always had opinions about politics from around the age of 7. My parents would say, "You should go into politics" and my usual reply was, "Nah, too dirty. Too corrupt."

It certainly sucks that a lot of our Congress has been bought and sold. The people barely even count. They could do a poll and 90% of Americans could agree with a certain bill but if Corporate America or Wall Street doesn't like it...good luck.
What gets me is it's considered normal. It's not normal, it's blatant bribery.

How does D Sirota suggest we take it back?
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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Wake Up America
Dennis Kucinich DNC Speech


YouTube - Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) Speaks to the DNC
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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What gets me is it's considered normal. It's not normal, it's blatant bribery.

How does D Sirota suggest we take it back?
It drives me nuts. It's acceptable. Is this an alternate universe? This stuff might have always gone on to a degree, but now it is out in the open, in our faces and shoved down our throats. Really, are we on our way to corporate fascism? The Supreme Court is going to vote on giving these giant mosters more power.

Will the Corporate Supremes Now Dance on Democracy's Corpse?

The Four Courtsmen of the Apocalypse are poised to finally bury American democracy in corporate money. The most powerful institution in human history -- the global corporation -- may soon take definitive possession of our electoral process. It could happen very soon.

While America agonizes over health care, energy and war, Justices John Roberts, Antonin Scalia, Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas could make it all moot. They may now have the fifth Supreme Court vote they need to open the final floodgates on corporate spending in political campaigns.

Harvey Wasserman: Will the Corporate Supremes Now Dance on Democracy's Corpse?
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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“We compromised on single payer by backing a public option, and now we are being asked to compromise the public option with negotiated rates. In conference, we will likely be asked to compromise negotiated rates with a trigger. In each and every step of the health care debate, the insurance companies have won. If they get hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxpayer subsidies, they get to raise their premiums, and increase their co pays and deductibles, while the public is forced to pay for private insurance, then the insurance companies win big.

“If this is the best we can do, then it is time to ask ourselves whether the two-party system is truly capable of representing the American people or whether the system has been so compromised by special interests that we can’t even protect the health of our own people. This is a moment of truth for the Democratic Party. Will we stand for the people or the insurance companies?”

Dennis Kucinich: Is the 2-Party System truly capable of representing the American people? « Dandelion Salad

Kucinich was definitely the best choice for President in the entire Democratic primary and one of 7 or 8 Democrats who were better then John McCain.

The only candidate that would have enacted real, measurable, meaningful grassroots change to the system of a military industrial complex followed closely by a medical industrial complex was Dennis Kucinich, Democrat from Ohio. The Senator from Illinois stood a distant second place
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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Kucinich was definitely the best choice for President in the entire Democratic primary and one of 7 or 8 Democrats who were better then John McCain.

The only candidate that would have enacted real, measurable, meaningful grassroots change to the system of a military industrial complex followed closely by a medical industrial complex was Dennis Kucinich, Democrat from Ohio. The Senator from Illinois stood a distant second place
I ain't no Liberal or nuthin', but I agree with you on this.

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Old 10-29-2009, 11:24 PM
 
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Kucinich was definitely the best choice for President in the entire Democratic primary and one of 7 or 8 Democrats who were better then John McCain.

The only candidate that would have enacted real, measurable, meaningful grassroots change to the system of a military industrial complex followed closely by a medical industrial complex was Dennis Kucinich, Democrat from Ohio. The Senator from Illinois stood a distant second place
You don't have to sell me on Kucinich. I supported him throughout the primaries. I still get his newsletter and always read it. You know, people get off on making fun of him, but he is a force to reckon with. I love hearing him speak and he is a true Statesman. I'll always believe tha the powers that be wanted him bumped out of the way very quickly. They eliminated him from a key debate on some asinine technicality. Kucinich iintroduced those articles of impeachment, so you know what would have followed if he had won the White House.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Damn Kucinich is pro fair-trade and also against the two-party system? I love this man.

kucinich.us - Kucinich on Fair Trade 2004
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:28 PM
 
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No, as long as both parties willingly bend over to Israel, who cares what else they think. After all, that's the only thing important, isn't it?


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Don't you think it could become a problem if various parties started shacking up in this coalition or that one, as happens all the time in many European countries? If there's one thing we don't need here, it's a string of coalition governments, with some small, otherwise insignificant party turning out to pull the strings because they suddenly hold the key to a majority decision; things are already tied up enough as it is!
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:33 PM
 
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Damn Kucinich is pro fair-trade and also against the two-party system? I love this man.

kucinich.us - Kucinich on Fair Trade 2004
I love him too. I call his office and tell his assistants to thank him for me now and again and I'm not even an Ohio resident.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:14 AM
 
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Kucinich is a lot more normal than old buzzard McCain/weirdo Palin team.

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I ain't no Liberal or nuthin', but I agree with you on this.

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