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What you posted about no sex in rape is a classic doublethink; a stunted understanding of the whole paradigm of sex and control. It is like saying no beef in hamburger or no water in the ocean. It is ironic that people are cutting and pasting their knowledge directly from the APA which has a major conflict of issue in the matter. The APA is in the business of promoting many of the behaviors that lead to rape. To be a client of one of the APA members you likely have a sexual perversion and it works better for the APA to promote these vices in people rather than to try to stamp them out and drive a wedge between the cash cow clients and the APA.
You should really reflect/meditate on that statement of "no sex in rape" for further clarification. This whole truth of sex and political control is hidden from students because the the whole deck of cards of empire is built on political control based on sexual vice. The secular schools teaches that sex is not part of rape to divorce the action of spreading sexual vice from one of its most revolting repercussions. Groups like the APA are very much in the business of absolving their clients of their sexual sins and giving license to perversion; it is how the APA members make their living. It seems that many have taken the indoctrination pill, swallowing the lot of the stupidity whole.
I respectfully suggest you actually speak to the APA or do some reading on their website or speak to a member of APA before making these assertions, which are not accurate information.
*APA has no "major conflict" re: motivation for rape - research has demonstrated that rape is about control, via sexual means, but motivated by power and control
*I have no idea what you mean by "behaviors that lead to rape" but the APA is not in the business of encouraging anything but psychotherapy for those with diagnosable mental disorders
*I'm not sure if you realize that psychologists treat rape victims much more frequently than rape perpetrators - psychotherapy with those convicted of crimes and perpetrators of sex crimes is a small sub-specialty in the field
* APA members don't absolve their clients of anything - we're treatment providers, not priests
Please get your facts straight before maligning an entire profession which you seem to not know very much about.
Why did the APA make a certified perversion like homosexuality and change it to a normal condition. Then they made homosexuality a normal condition equal to heterosexuality and created a new mental pathology of homophobia.
The APA does promote rape by encouraging masturbation in young people, which gives license to pornography which is a product of the female salve trade where women are held in bondage by many means including the terror of rape. Every serial killer from Bundy to Dahmer was a chronic masturbation addict, a behavior promoted by the APA. The APA has mixed up science with the sexual revolution agenda; leading to crimes like the rape that this thread is about.
It is clear that the APA is in the agenda promotion business.
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Originally Posted by eastwesteastagain
I respectfully suggest you actually speak to the APA or do some reading on their website or speak to a member of APA before making these assertions, which are not accurate information.
*APA has no "major conflict" re: motivation for rape - research has demonstrated that rape is about control, via sexual means, but motivated by power and control
*I have no idea what you mean by "behaviors that lead to rape" but the APA is not in the business of encouraging anything but psychotherapy for those with diagnosable mental disorders
*I'm not sure if you realize that psychologists treat rape victims much more frequently than rape perpetrators - psychotherapy with those convicted of crimes and perpetrators of sex crimes is a small sub-specialty in the field
* APA members don't absolve their clients of anything - we're treatment providers, not priests
Please get your facts straight before maligning an entire profession which you seem to not know very much about.
Why did the APA make a certified perversion like homosexuality and change it to a normal condition. Then they made homosexuality a normal condition equal to heterosexuality and created a new mental pathology of homophobia.
The APA does promote rape by encouraging masturbation in young people, which gives license to pornography which is a product of the female salve trade where women are held in bondage by many means including the terror of rape. Every serial killer from Bundy to Dahmer was a chronic masturbation addict, a behavior promoted by the APA. The APA has mixed up science with the sexual revolution agenda; leading to crimes like the rape that this thread is about.
It is clear that the APA is in the agenda promotion business.
Re: the APA's shift from changing homosexuality from diagnosable to non-diagnosable (from another thread, copied below):
Just so you know, the decision to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder form the DSM in 1973 was based on sociological, biological and psychological research, as well as a paradigm shift in the field from psychoanalysis to more behavioral, cognitive, humanistic, and interpersonal approaches. Since 1973, hundreds upon hundreds of studies have been done on sexual orientation. No matter how you want to spin it, the research says homosexuality is a viable sexual identity.
Yes, social activism played a role in dropping the diagnosis via generating interest in exploring the questions via research. Gay protesters did arrive at APA meetings to be heard.
Re: homophobia - as of DSM-IV-TR (the most recent diagnostic manual), homophobia is not a diagnosable disorder, nor has it been in any other edition of the DSM
Re: APA encouraging masturbation - I am truly curious about whether you have any links to that? I have not heard that APA has taken a stance on masturbation.
Re: the links between masturbation and rape and between masturbation and serial killers - I am not aware of those links either. If you have evidence of this, I am interested to hear it.
I am not arguing that the APA or any professional society is impervious to social issues/influence. I am arguing that shifts in diagnoses and policy within APA are determined by the research that addresses these issues. Yes, social pressure can be brought to bear on what questions are researched, but the results of solid research designs and the peer-review process by which the research is generated is not a product of social pressures.
I'm not sure how relevant any of this is to the OP - the only relationship I can think of between the APA and this case (and this is a stretch) is that the poor victim is likely to need a whole lot of good psychological treatment after what she endured.
Last edited by eastwesteastagain; 10-31-2009 at 02:53 PM..
Reason: after thought
The only way to proove this was about race is if they have a video and the attackers were using racial remarks in their attack on her. Even if there was one, I doubt you'd see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton marching in support of her since she isn't black or brown.
Not true at all. Al Sharpton made his entire career from a supposed race hate crime - that didn't involve any actual crime at all.
If she was white and the rapists were not, most likely it was about race -- the dominance of one race against the other by raping a helpless young girl.
It's a story as old as time - the "victors" rape and plunder the invaded.
I am disappointed that there is a racial spin being put to this. I saw this far more as a gender issue then a racial one. My heart bled for this young girl when I heard of this story. I know first hand how sensitive a young girl can be especially when it comes to her sexuality. I hope they get go to jail till they die. I would even condone castration (kidding....maybe.)
I bet you wouldn't be upset over any racial spin if it were 20 white men holding down and raping a black or latina girl. It is a race crime -- or why didn't they rape one of their own?
I hate to break it to you folks, but the perpetrators not only span the rainbow racially, but one of the guys, a fifteen year old white kid, was a friend of the victim.
I hate to break it to you folks, but the perpetrators not only span the rainbow racially, but one of the guys, a fifteen year old white kid, was a friend of the victim.
Absolutey everything for some always boils down to race.
Racial politics and pandering should be pushed aside and justice should simply be sought in the rape of a young woman.
It looks like this whole thing has devolved to a racial issue. She talks about being white and a minority at the school, and how it supposedly makes her discriminated and more vulnerable to crime. So far every suspect has either been black or latino, possibility of this being charged as a hate crime?
I hate to break it to you folks, but the perpetrators not only span the rainbow racially, but one of the guys, a fifteen year old white kid, was a friend of the victim.
Richmond is majority black, and the going culture is afro urban BS. "Crips" and all that BS.
For some stupid reason, young people of all stripes seem to gobble that crap up. Same as we all had long hair parted in the middle in the 70's because the bands were doing it. Same crap, only now it's afro "culture" that's being marketed.
The solution is simple. Declare all gangs and gang activity as "domestic terrorism" and let Blackwater go at them.
Some serious soldiers could make short work of all this BS.
Rape has nothing to do with sex. It is an act perpetrated upon the victim to exert control. The act of penetration takes away the victim's ability to control her own body and/or the situation. It is not driven by the urge for sex.
Are you saying that men are unable to control themselves once they become aroused and so must follow the act to fruition or die?
Men? You all need to step in here and defend yourselves. If a woman says no, are you unable to control your basic animal urges? Are you going to take what you want regardless because the physical urges override your sense of what is right and what is wrong?
Pu-leeze.......
Why don't you just go ahead and say it...."She was asking for it......"
I wish I could rep you 1000 times. Excellent.
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