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(First off, my deep condolences to those who are injured and family who have loved ones killed by the gunman in Ft Hood. It is a tragic and sad day. My post is not to disparage anyone in the military, especially at this time.)
I'm curious as to why there are so many people against the public option due to their concern about the costs, and yet don't complain how much spending there is in the military and two wars?
I agree having a strong military is absolutely necessary. But wars are expensive, and there are plenty of wastes! That $ can easily fund the public option that would give working people with pre-existing conditions (who are not as lucky as corporate employees with full benefits) and others Affordable Health Care!
I also notice that every person that is vociferously against the public option happens to have excellent health care, and are usually very healthy themselves. I've suffered from ill health before and I know what it's like to not be able to work and need to seek medical attention. It isn't a fun place to be, and those are the people that need a little bit more compassion!
I think most civilians just are not aware of the amt of waste that goes on in the Dept of Defense.
(First off, my deep condolences to those who are injured and family who have loved ones killed by the gunman in Ft Hood. It is a tragic and sad day. My post is not to disparage anyone in the military, especially at this time.)
I'm curious as to why there are so many people against the public option due to their concern about the costs, and yet don't complain how much spending there is in the military and two wars?
I agree having a strong military is absolutely necessary. But wars are expensive, and there are plenty of wastes! That $ can easily fund the public option that would give working people with pre-existing conditions (who are not as lucky as corporate employees with full benefits) and others Affordable Health Care!
I think most civilians just are not aware of the amt of waste that goes on in the Dept of Defense.
Am I the only seeing this paradox?
Yeah.....we NEED an all-volunteer, UNPAID military.
Suppose this could be arranged if we don't scrap the Second Amendment.
Maybe a military that will uphold the Constitution and defend US from ALL enemies.....BOTH, foreign AND domestic?
Nah.....I just think YOU are not aware of the amount of waste that goes on by the GOVT. and believe that Defense spending is no longer necessary since we are so close to achieving world peace.
Have you ever considered that perhaps......a BIGGER, more refined, yet generous..... military budget, could possibly CREATE a few jobs HERE since the stimulus package appears to be falling just a tad bit short of expectations?
I don't know, but it's just a thought.
Let me know, 'cause when world peace gets in the way of things......
we might not need such a big military anymore.
(First off, my deep condolences to those who are injured and family who have loved ones killed by the gunman in Ft Hood. It is a tragic and sad day. My post is not to disparage anyone in the military, especially at this time.)
I'm curious as to why there are so many people against the public option due to their concern about the costs, and yet don't complain how much spending there is in the military and two wars?
I agree having a strong military is absolutely necessary. But wars are expensive, and there are plenty of wastes! That $ can easily fund the public option that would give working people with pre-existing conditions (who are not as lucky as corporate employees with full benefits) and others Affordable Health Care!
I also notice that every person that is vociferously against the public option happens to have excellent health care, and are usually very healthy themselves. I've suffered from ill health before and I know what it's like to not be able to work and need to seek medical attention. It isn't a fun place to be, and those are the people that need a little bit more compassion!
I think most civilians just are not aware of the amt of waste that goes on in the Dept of Defense.
Am I the only seeing this paradox?
What then would you do with military members? Should they receive unemployment compensation? And how about the industry (s) that build armaments, aircraft, ships, etc. for the military? Add all of these worker to the unemployment figures?
I still agree with you somewhat, not necessarily in reducing the number of military members, but reducing the size of government in general. Bush created the largest government ever, until Obama grew the already large government to enormous proportions.
Reducing the size of the military force (members) is not going to create jobs, but there is a lot of dead weight at the DOD, and a lot of very wealthy members of Congress, which in turn are spending like there won't be a tomorrow. They even gave themselves a pay raise recently, and pork is worst than ever. Not only that, but several of them are tax cheats, something the average American can't get away with. There are all kinds of departments that make no sense to have, some of which Reagan could not get rid of back then.
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The reason why most Americans are against the "public option" is because several generations of Americans to come will have to pay for it, and because by implementing this plan those who already have employer sponsored healthcare coverage will lose theirs.
Just an 8% reduction in the $680 Billion Dollar Defense Bill would pay for the additional revenue needed to be raised for the Health bill.
So who would oppose an 8% reduction?.........Well the GOPers in Congress would.
They would howl that we are leaving the USA defenseless and caving into the "terrorists".
The Conservative Blue Dog Dems would...they, like the GOP are owned by defense industy lobbyists.
The majority of Dems don't have the spine to stand up to this GOP/Blue Dog Dem coalition.
Yet another case of white middle class men (the GOP base) not having the sophistication to vote in their own self interest.
I don't see how a public option is more in my self interest than a strong well funded military is that provides millions of jobs.
An insurance marketplace with regulations is more than enough. I won't support a public option, and certainly not at the cost of military spending.
You may call it waste, but all the money DoD spends goes somewhere. It enters the economy and circulates around creating jobs. A public option would do nothing but cause havoc with the private insurance market.
(First off, my deep condolences to those who are injured and family who have loved ones killed by the gunman in Ft Hood. It is a tragic and sad day. My post is not to disparage anyone in the military, especially at this time.)
I'm curious as to why there are so many people against the public option due to their concern about the costs, and yet don't complain how much spending there is in the military and two wars?
I agree having a strong military is absolutely necessary. But wars are expensive, and there are plenty of wastes! That $ can easily fund the public option that would give working people with pre-existing conditions (who are not as lucky as corporate employees with full benefits) and others Affordable Health Care!
I also notice that every person that is vociferously against the public option happens to have excellent health care, and are usually very healthy themselves. I've suffered from ill health before and I know what it's like to not be able to work and need to seek medical attention. It isn't a fun place to be, and those are the people that need a little bit more compassion!
I think most civilians just are not aware of the amt of waste that goes on in the Dept of Defense.
Am I the only seeing this paradox?
What happened was not tragic!
It was criminal! It was planned and was a terrorist attack!
What makes you thing the government can run healthcare,
when they can't even run anything else. Our current president
is very inexperienced and is in for a long haul!
I don't see how a public option is more in my self interest than a strong well funded military is that provides millions of jobs.
An insurance marketplace with regulations is more than enough. I won't support a public option, and certainly not at the cost of military spending.
You may call it waste, but all the money DoD spends goes somewhere. It enters the economy and circulates around creating jobs. A public option would do nothing but cause havoc with the private insurance market.
Your logic is ridiculously flawed. Government spending done IN THIS COUNTRY, is the SAME, be it government health care or military. You almost sound like you are advocating increasing the size of the military because it "provides millions of jobs?"
The problem with military spending is, it doesn't all happen in this country. Our military personnel that are stationed in other countries, spend money in those countries. The money doesn't make a loop and come back to us, its just spent and gone in every country we have a foreign base.
We only need as big a military as we need to defense ourselves, anything more is poor allocation of resources. Even if we spent half as much as we do today, we would spend FAR MORE than anyone else. We could take that 350 billion a year, and take those displaced soldiers and rebuild America. Bridges, schools, roads, the levy's, health care, free education through college, etc etc.
Anyone who thinks we need to keep our military at the level it is now to just "defend" ourselves is a fool. We have something like 800 foreign bases in 100 different foreign countries. And anyone who thinks that its good that the government "creates jobs" through the military but opposes socialism, obviously has severe mental problems.
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