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Because forcing people to denounce their religion is the American way, right?
A perfectly reasonable question....to which I'll give a reasonable answer.
"SHOULD people in America be forced to denounce..(or at least, modify parts of) their religion?" That's a fair question. The answer would be, "that depends entirely on what their religion demands of them, and whether those demands put other people at risk".
If you religion asks that you sing funny songs....wear funny clothes...or worship funny things..or believe in magic...then of course, you should be free to practice your religion; this is America.
But if your religion requires you to hate others...to eliminate 'enemies'...to jeopardize public safety...or to intimidate and harrass others..(human sacrifice, animal cruelty, cannibalism, revenge killings?).....then perhaps you may not be able to practice ALL of your religion; you might have to 'tone it down' just a bit.
It seems to be that way with the left and all the ACLU whackjobs who want to take the Christ out of Christmas, give us holiday trees and all this other tripe, so to answer your question: yes.
See, and there I thought I was being all rhetorical and tongue-in-cheek.
BTW, I think I'm considered left leaning and I'm all for keeping Christ in Christmas and Christmas trees and they can even be on public property as long as other religious icons can also be on public property. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.....but either way, no one is suggesting kicking Christians out of the country.
Christmas is not a religious holiday for some of us, and as far as I know, there's nothing in our laws that says that it is.
Considering Christmas is a Christian religious holiday (the celebration of Christ's birth) it is curious why the non-believers even celebrate it. It is the heighth of hypocrocy or greed (give me free stuff). Why partake in this religious holiday marking Christ's birth? Law or no law it has always been a religious holiday.
A perfectly reasonable question....to which I'll give a reasonable answer.
"SHOULD people in America be forced to denounce..(or at least, modify parts of) their religion?" That's a fair question. The answer would be, "that depends entirely on what their religion demands of them, and whether those demands put other people at risk".
If you religion asks that you sing funny songs....wear funny clothes...or worship funny things..or believe in magic...then of course, you should be free to practice your religion; this is America.
But if your religion requires you to hate others...to eliminate 'enemies'...to jeopardize public safety...or to intimidate and harrass others..(human sacrifice, animal cruelty, cannibalism, revenge killings?).....then perhaps you may not be able to practice ALL of your religion; you might have to 'tone it down' just a bit.
Good question, though...
Thanks - good answers also. I fully agree that when one's freedom (religious or otherwise) impinges on others' safety, safety must come first (I believe that US law agrees with me on this).
I think the follow up I have is: since not all sects of Islam require or even condone violence (yes, I know all of the quotes from the Prophet about killing infidels), why are some suggesting "going after" all Muslims? Wouldn't it be just the extremists (i.e., literal interpretation of infidels, jihad, etc.) that would be the risk to our national security? In which case, why not just go after extreme sects?
I totally agree with you. These people have no loyality and will never have any loyality to this country. Their loyality is to Islam and we are the enemy of Islam. There are christian Arabs that have no problem in other countries but the believers in Islam are taught to hate anyone that is not a muslim.
I thought the US was fighting a war on terror, not a war on Islam.
Let me put it this way: Japanese Americans were interred in WW2 and they were far LESS of a threat then than Muslim Americans are today. (Zero Americans were killed by Japanese Americans, while 3,000 Americans have been killed since 2001 by Muslim Americans) You also can't get past the fact that in their religion non Muslims MUST be killed or forced to pay extra taxes and submit to Muslim authority.
I don't think Americans should do anything violent against the ones that are here at all, but I do think we should start sending them all packing in a humane, civilized way. Arab Mosques around the US are trying to convert all low income Black and Hispanic Americans into radical anti American Muslims - if they succeed America's goose is cooked.
You really can't play the quote the Karan without playing quote the Christian bible. And when you do that, your theory is without merit.
How big of you that you don't think Americans should do anything violent against the ones that are here now. Do you even have any friends that are Muslim? Have you ever worked with any?
I have news for you, extremist Christian sects are also courting Latinos and poor Blacks, as well.
The reactionary views on this thread show an intolerance that will harm this country much more than "allowing" Muslims, many second, third and even fourth generation American citizens, to remain here.
How do you feel about the American paramilitary hate groups that are growing like leavening bread throughout our country?
But it seems that Islam is fighting a war on the U.S.
I guess that's okay....right?
No, of course that's not OK.
I agree that Islamic extremists are fighting a war with the US. And the US is fighting a war with these extremists and those terrorists who are targeting our nation and our citizens.
That's different than the poster who said the US is fighting a war on/against Islam.
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I agree that Islamic extremists are fighting a war with the US. And the US is fighting a war with these extremists and those terrorists who are targeting our nation and our citizens.
That's different than the poster who said the US is fighting a war on/against Islam.
Well I guiess when Muslims start weeding out the so-called extremists from amongst themselves......when they start ratting them out....that's when we'll make a distinction.
Until then ...Islam is at war with the U.S. That's how I see it. After this week, I'm fed up. I don't want to hear any more. Get your Muslim house in ORDER ! Period!
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