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Old 11-08-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Originally Posted by robertjohnson View Post
Take a cyber tour of the French 'no go zones'.
Do we want that here?
Here's the French Government's link for the No Go Zones
Atlas des 751 Zones Urbaines Sensibles (http://i.ville.gouv.fr/divbib/doc/chercherZUS.htm - broken link)

"They go by the euphemistic term Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones, with the even more antiseptic acronym ZUS, and there are 751 of them as of last count. They are conveniently listed on one long webpage, complete with street demarcations and map delineations.
What are they? Those places in France that the French state does not control. They range from two zones in the medieval town of Carcassone to twelve in the heavily Muslim town of Marseilles, with hardly a town in France lacking in its ZUS."

The French government has created a list of areas taken over by Muslim residents that the government has NO CONTROL of.

The Muslim residents are using Fench law against the French. It's only a matter of time before we see it here.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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History says other wise.
The question asked wasn't about the past it was about the present; Name a major world religion other than Islam that preaches hate and destruction for non-believers- esp the Christian faith.

As for the rest of your post shall I simply say that I think your opinions are claptrap. It's quite obvious that you've either not visited the Middle East or stayed with the tour group when you did.

Dano
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Most of the Muslims I've met have been cool, I've had no problems with them.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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What are your feelings about muslims in USA?


In the aftermath of the recent mass murder of Americans by a Palestinian muslim with USA citizenship,
it is useful to have your comments on muslims in USA,either on visa status,or naturalised...

My feelings on Muslims are the same as they are on Christians, Jews, or any other religious group here on this land. If one doesn't belong here, they all don't belong here.

Not to let details get in the way, he was as much of a US citizen as some of the founding fathers.

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Old 11-08-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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The question asked wasn't about the past it was about the present; Name a major world religion other than Islam that preaches hate and destruction for non-believers- esp the Christian faith.

As for the rest of your post shall I simply say that I think your opinions are claptrap. It's quite obvious that you've either not visited the Middle East or stayed with the tour group when you did.

Dano

Whatever..

by the way.. islam DOESN'T teach or preach violence.. People with an EXTREME agenda hijacked the religion .. same as the skinheads of America hijack Christianity ...
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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They need Jesus.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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They need Jesus.

They have Jesus
. And those who don't, are like the Christians who need Allah.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Do you believe, as a Christian, that the bible is the word of God? What about when God commands in Exodus 22:18 "Suffer not a witch to live" or Deuteronomy 18:10-12 in which it states that witchcraft, sorcery, witches and sorcerers are abominations and God commands they be driven out/Claims he drove them out and those that practice them be driven out.

Are these acceptable references to you as a Christian or are you going to cherry pick your bible.
I wasn't aware that my personal beliefs had any part in this thread. What the Bible says or doesn't say isn't germane. Esp since neither quote says anything about female genital mutilation, honor killings, or burning witches.

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Unfortunately it does, it is just dismissed as "an African problem" or "not real Christianity".

Some of the countries with the highest rates of female genital mutilation, (Kenya and Ethiopia) have vast christian majorities.

As to honor killing, intensely Evangelical southern Nigeria, has a vast population of children that have been abandoned or killed by their families, because their families viewed them as witches, and therefore a threat to the community. This is in addition to the witch burnings of adults which occur with a high frequency in that region.

Of course you will just dismiss them as not being "real Christians," because it is easier to do that then man up to the crazies in your own religion.
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So you have a cite to demonstrate there is a Christian doctrine teaches that these acts are acceptable? IMO what you're referring to is animism coupled with missionary taught Christianity. I don't think there's any teaching of burning witches or female genital mutilation from the Christian side.

Dano
Followed by:

"So you have a cite to demonstrate there is a Christian doctrine teaches that these acts are acceptable?"

And of course you've been tap dancing around the question ever since.

Dano
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:33 PM
 
Location: NC
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I wasn't aware that my personal beliefs had any part in this thread. What the Bible says or doesn't say isn't germane. Esp since neither quote says anything about female genital mutilation, honor killings, or burning witches.

You said:

And I replied:

Followed by:

"So you have a cite to demonstrate there is a Christian doctrine teaches that these acts are acceptable?"

And of course you've been tap dancing around the question ever since.

Dano
What the bible says is not germane to Christianity? That is news to me.
"Suffer not a Witch to live" has nothing to do with burning Witches?

As to female genital mutilation it was being practiced by Christians in Egypt and Ethiopia, long before Christianity reached Western Europe.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:23 PM
 
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To answer the OP, my opinion is this...........If Muslims choose to immigrate to the United States they need to be willing to assimilate. What has happened in Europe is beyond the pale. Why should any country be willing to change its culture to accomodate immigrants?
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