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Originally Posted by DanoTex
I could be mistaken but the level of extremism would seem to be a bit different. While I have felt uncomfortable and ostracized in the company of some religious orders, I never felt at all threatened. Not at all true in Muslim countries where the treat is palpable at times. Can you cite another major religion that preaches death and destruction to those with different beliefs?
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History says other wise. Look at the Christian Crusades etc. Yes, in modern times there isn't a hostile Christian nation , it's time came and went. But there has been and still is many ways in which the Christian religion tries to be totaltarian in one way or another.
As for Muslim nations, there problem is not so much that there religion alone that is the problem, but the totaltarian governments , the factions of religion fighting for that totaltarian control that causes years of hostility and resentment toward other religions/cultures that are not their own. They just do not know how to live in harmony alongside each other. As "religious" as the extremists like to be, they are in fact quite the opposite and completely miss any spiritual mark whatsoever.
While I disagree with some practices in the less extreme form of the muslim religion (like their view that woman are inferior) they are indeed a peaceful religion. It's the ones that take things to the extremes and that are using said religion to gain power over the people that cause the problems.
BTW.. the Catholic church in it's hey day , the same thing could be said about them. I'm not talking about strapping bombs, but the fight for control over people and power etc.
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So how do we deal with those with "ties with extremist groups over seas" who are natural born US citizens? I would think that is the greater problem.
Dano
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Extremism is an illness.. a mental one at that. Look at those that join the accult. A person that has grown up in this country isn't going to be influenced into extremism by the same factors that cause people in those hostile countries into it . What i mean by that is that those countries are poor. You're either in control and are extremely wealthy (the leader) or you are poor. The leaders of those muslim countries kep all the wealth for themselves, invest nothing in infrastructure and things for their people, then turn around and convince their population that the western world is to blame for their condition. While violence is not the answer, you can see how they have grown into their extreme views.
However, someone born here that hasn't been subjected to that may have been subjected to other things, perhaps like discrimination by people who are afraid of muslims like those on this board. Or perhaps they are unhappy in other areas of their life and they grow these unhealthy attitudes.
I think that anyone of the muslim faith that travels to a nation that harbors extremism needs to have their visit to that country closely monitored, especially if they have been know to be U.S born extremists. Beyond that, if you can even do that, there isn't much you can do.
We can't just expel all muslims or outlaw the religion, so I'm not quite sure what the point of your question is. Perhaps if there were more tolerance they'd have no reason to build hostile feelings toward their own country.
Sometimes, these people are simply mentally ill or deficient in some way..just like someone that falls into an occult.
All I know, is that you can't look at all muslims with those prejudice eyes.. it's like now that we have become more accepting of black Americans in our culture, are we now looking for the new race/religion to persecute and push down?
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My mind is totally void of the logic of how each of those 4 are so much better than the other 3 the other three should die for their infidelity.
