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Old 11-12-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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There is plenty of scientific proof that the adjuvants added to the vaccine are toxic and that the inhaled version contains live virus - it just isn't good business to play up those aspects.
It's no secret that the inhaled version contains a live, but weakened, virus. The media reports this fact. Health authorities also say that pregnant women are not to get the inhaled version.

"The inhaled vaccine is approved for people who are healthy with no underlying medical conditions, who are not pregnant, and who are between the ages of 2 and 49."

As for testing: Q&A: Trial of 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine in Pregnant Women (http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/QA/H1N1pregnanttrials.htm - broken link)

Adjuvants: CDC, Nov 3 2009:

Will the 2009 H1N1 vaccines that are currently recommended contain adjuvants?
No. According to current federal plans, only unadjuvanted vaccines will be used in the United States during the 2009 flu season. This includes all of the 2009 H1N1 and seasonal influenza vaccines that will be available for children and adults in both the injectable and nasal spray formulations. None of these influenza vaccines will contain adjuvants.

2009 H1N1 vaccines with adjuvants are being studied to determine if they are safe and effective. Experts will review these data when they are available. There is no plan at this time to recommend a 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccine with an adjuvant.


CDC H1N1 Flu | General Questions and Answers on 2009 H1N1 Influenza Vaccine Safety

 
Old 11-12-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: TX
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And why would your decision be based on scientific evidence when there was not time to test it before recommending it?

Are you pro pubic guinea pig?
Ewwww! what the heck is that!
 
Old 11-12-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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Ewwww! what the heck is that!
Well, it's NOT an Italian Police Officer!

It's not an Italian with a case of Swine Flu.

It's prolly just someone, anyone, who wants to, or allows oneself, or, you know, just someone who gets a swine flu vaccination.
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And why would your decision be based on scientific evidence when there was not time to test it before recommending it?

Are you pro pubic guinea pig?
What You Need To Know About Swine Flu Vaccine : NPR

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I actually thought I read that the vaccine did not contain adjuvants.
Already answered, but I'll reiterate, it does not contain adjuvants.
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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What You Need To Know About Swine Flu Vaccine : NPR



Already answered, but I'll reiterate, it does not contain adjuvants.
Damn it - I didn't realize I misspelled that word. I apologize to the previous posters who tried to bring it to my attention.

Well, if it doesn't have adjuvants, how does it work?

And, why no adjuvants? Too unsafe for Americans?
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Over There
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What I don't understand is if the treatment for the regular flu and the swine flu is exactly the same why do you need the shot. If you get either flu you take meds and that is it why do you need a shot? And from my background in the pharmaceutical industry I can tell you there is NO way they have done clear, concise clinical trials on this. NO WAY!! The FDA pushed this through because had they not Obama would have looked like he was useless in this area. Clinical trials take years not months. There is NO way they can say they can know for sure that this is safe there has simply not been enough research on it.


I really hope that people realize this and they realize that this vaccine was a political issue not a health issue.
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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And why would your decision be based on scientific evidence when there was not time to test it before recommending it?

Are you pro public guinea pig?
Belated fix.
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Haven't read through the thread - any confirmed statistics yet? Think the CDC would hide them?
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:52 PM
 
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Haven't read through the thread - any confirmed statistics yet? Think the CDC would hide them?
Does Carval pork Republicans?
 
Old 11-12-2009, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Damn it - I didn't realize I misspelled that word. I apologize to the previous posters who tried to bring it to my attention.

Well, if it doesn't have adjuvants, how does it work?

And, why no adjuvants? Too unsafe for Americans?
It works the way all inactivated vaccines work, by stimulating the immune system to produce antibodies. The adjvants were found to be unneccessary in testing to produce an antibody response.

What You Need To Know About Swine Flu Vaccine : NPR
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