It just keeps getting worse!!!! watch 2 min..you won't regret it...this is outragous, even CNN is upset about it.

[momonkey]

Originally Posted by Newarkid

Fearmongering 101...Dobbs doesn't work for CNN and John Boehner is a fool with NO ideas. 3+ minutes of my life gone for nothing.

Still trying to sell those "new ideas"?

The only thing new about the Democrat's ideas is that you don't know they have failed miserably in the past.

When not passing the stimulus won't throw us into a cycle of economic collapse or not passing cap and trade won't render the Earth uninhabitable with a runaway greenhouse effect, get back to me about fearmongering.

[floridasandy]

quote:
Immigration advocates and their allies in Congress believe there is a window for immigration reform to pass early next year, before midterm elections complicate the political calculus.

"The room for doing this is very tight," Gutierrez said earlier this month on the Spanish-language Univision network's political talk program, "Al Punto." "We have to do it in February or early March of next year."

i don't think obama would be stupid enough to even touch this issue, with rising unemployment and falling wages/hours, before the next election, but you never know......

[bentlebee]

If they do so without doing anything for legal aliens I guess there might be a lawsuit waiting...Some people are here for 10 yrs or longer on E2 visa's or other visa's and have no chance to obtain a GC under their visa and than a illegal comes around and get's the opportunity ....that is wrong...

Under the E2 visa the person has to have their own business and provide jobs to American citizens...if the E2 visa holder retires due to age or whatever reason they have to leave the country right away...Even if they had their business for 25 yrs and never have been back in their native country they still have to leave right away to a country where they left so long ago....that is wrong!

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by blackandproud

Why are you posting a news report from 2007 as if its breaking news from 2009? If you look at the bottom of the video, there are breaking news. Listed is an agreement between Consolidated Edison and American Superconductor

Article: Attack-Proof Power Line to Be Installed Under NY; Consolidated Edison and American Superconductor Corporation agree to put a superconducting power line under midtown New York that should lead to a sturdier power grid able to withstand extrem

LMAO. Hilarious the length you all will go on this fear mongering. Page out of FAUX news handbook. LMAO

I wish more people would try and do a bit more sourcing and research before posting stuff. I have not seen the video from the OP, but good observations blackandproud.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by shorebaby

I think most conservatives were pretty disappointed by Bush on many fronts.

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan. The guy was re-elected, so some conservatives must have been willing to give him a shot.

I don't think you could define any of those folks listed as "Republican standard bearers" especially Bush at that point in his Presidency.

The presidential candidate is not the standard bearer? I am sorry, that makes no sense. There may have been a sizable minority unhappy with McCain, but you can't tell me that the candidate coming out of a party convention isn't a proper representative for the party.

I can see your point w. Bush. His move on this legislation was likely an attempt to sway a voter block for the 2008 election. So I guess it boils down to what constitutes a "Republican". If you use some sort of Platonic ideal as your yardstick, then everybody will fall short. I am more of an empiricist: What the Republican Party does and says defines what counts as Republican. I'm sure you're not denying that those are very senior and high-profile Republicans?

Clearly the party faithful were less than enchanted by Mccain, many stayed home rather than vote for him.

Definitions again. If they're not voting for their party's candidate, are they party faithful?

In any event look up Democrats and immigration reform and they were all over that bill in 2007 as they are today. To deny that this is a Dem signature issue is to deny reality.

You make the argument somehat more forcefully than I would've done, but fair enough. Just don't try to act as if the Republicans aren't in on it.