If you had a choice between two America's.. (Iraq, Palestinian, 9/11)

[wade_word]

Originally Posted by Deezus

Some white, black, Asian, Hispanic and Native Americans are safe, but some are not. You never know who you are dealing with.

These days, no one is immune to much of anything. It's called vigilance.

[cleatis]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

Look at the countries as if they could both exist at the same time in the world today, each were identical except for their religious makeup.

You should ask yourself a few questions before answering....

Do you think this country is safer with or without muslims?

Do you think this country is more stable with or without muslims?

Do you think the people of this country would be more happy with or without muslims?

And please keep all mentions of politics out of it, this should only come from your heart. Where would you really want to live? And why?

This country already has Muslims

I wouldn't want things to be run the way they are in most Muslim countries. but I am one to celebrate diversity. I think it's a very good thing when not everyone thinks alike. If we all had the same ideals it would be a pretty boring place.

[Casper in Dallas]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

Look at the countries as if they could both exist at the same time in the world today, each were identical except for their religious makeup.

You should ask yourself a few questions before answering....

Do you think this country is safer with or without muslims?

Do you think this country is more stable with or without muslims?

Do you think the people of this country would be more happy with or without muslims?

And please keep all mentions of politics out of it, this should only come from your heart. Where would you really want to live? And why?

Would not want to live a nation that would be willing to expel or demy entry to people based on their religon. This nation would no longer be the nation that the founding fathers built, meaning the American dream was over.
Casper

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by cleatis

This country already has Muslims

I wouldn't want things to be run the way they are in most Muslim countries. but I am one to celebrate diversity. I think it's a very good thing when not everyone thinks alike. If we all had the same ideals it would be a pretty boring place.

What is it that Muslims think about that is so different from everyone else? Why are muslims the only ones that can have that perspective? Do you think their "different thinking" has brought greater prosperity to this country?

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas

Would not want to live a nation that would be willing to expel or demy entry to people based on their religon. This nation would no longer be the nation that the founding fathers built, meaning the American dream was over.
Casper

Do you believe that the founding fathers wanted this?

John Adams on Islam in 1830 « Mary Christina Love

FrontPage Magazine - John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad

[sponger42]

If there were no Muslims, I'd have a harder time finding a friend to be my designated driver.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

I'd rather not live with xians.
They scare me more.

Maybe you should consider moving to one of the Islamic paradises, maybe like Afghanistan or Iran where Christians and Jews are not allowed or are very strictly controlled. Maybe you'd be happier. --- oh -- and don't forget to pack your burka.

[Casper in Dallas]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

Do you believe that the founding fathers wanted this?

John Adams on Islam in 1830 « Mary Christina Love

FrontPage Magazine - John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad

If he believed in Muslims not being Americans he would have never signed on the dotted line. Note what his comments were directed towards, it had nothing to do with whether muslims should be treated as Americans or allowed in this nation. Knowing that there are bad people within the islamic faith does not make all Muslims bad, just as bad people within the Christian faith do not make all Christians bad. Sorry, you can try and justify exclusion all you want, i will never buy it, neither will the American people. And that is what it comes down to, even if the farsiders managed to get some sort of law passed banning Muslims from living here, the SC would overturn the law as unconstitutional, and they would be 100% correct. Ain't gonna happen folks.
Casper

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas

If he believed in Muslims not being Americans he would have never signed on the dotted line. Note what his comments were directed towards, it had nothing to do with whether muslims should be treated as Americans or allowed in this nation. Knowing that there are bad people within the islamic faith does not make all Muslims bad, just as bad people within the Christian faith do not make all Christians bad. Sorry, you can try and justify exclusion all you want, i will never buy it, neither will the American people. And that is what it comes down to, even if the farsiders managed to get some sort of law passed banning Muslims from living here, the SC would overturn the law as unconstitutional, and they would be 100% correct. Ain't gonna happen folks.
Casper

You are absolutely right it is not going to happen. As long as we are the United States of America founded on our constitution it is never going to happen. This question was merely hypothetical to see how politics have clouded the judgement of the people on this forum.

This was not supposed to be a political discussion about our constitution or our founding fathers, it was supposed to be a logical discussion about the good and bad effects of Muslims existing in this country, and determining if the good outweighs the bad.

The problem is, the people of this forum refuse to actually think in any profound manner to the actual effects of Muslims living in this country. Instead they look at the question, see the political undercurrent, and vote along their current ideology.

When you look at absolute facts, no rationally-minded human being could ever make the case that Muslims make this country a better place to live. The fact that almost half of all people voting in this poll voted for Muslims is a testament to how ignorant and naive most people really are.

All I asked of you was honesty, can you people not just be honest?

[malamute]

Don't forget it was a Muslim who killed Robert F Kennedy, supposedly liberals adore the Kennedys so much -- until one is assassinated by a Muslim and then they want more coming to this country.