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Old 11-20-2009, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Yes, you're right. But that's only if they knew who the father of the baby was. If a female soldier gets pregnant and won't say who got her that way (for whatever reason), the guy gets away.

With overpopulation and expensive taxpayer funded military training, I'm all for pregnancy prevention in the military.
In which case she once again owns this.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:37 AM
 
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First off; no, you don't. Secondly, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING! LMAO. She is being discharged because she is not good enough AND she took off if I remember correctly. Still LMAO. But, my opinion is she would have wound up cannon fodder anyway. I do not believe, albeit with my limited knowledge of her from the article, she gives 2 defacations about anyone but herself, including the child.

You've argued your way around the subject now. Is this what is known as "circular loop"? But it has been fun. LOL
Do you really want someone like that protecting anyone with a gun? They need to make these cuts before this crap happens. They need to be more strict in recruitment and more strict in boot camp. None of this second chance crap they do. They could have saved themselves the trouble of this court martial if they had been more strict.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:54 AM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Do you really want someone like that protecting anyone with a gun? They need to make these cuts before this crap happens. They need to be more strict in recruitment and more strict in boot camp. None of this second chance crap they do. They could have saved themselves the trouble of this court martial if they had been more strict.
Which side of this debate are you on? LOL I thought the Army being strict and making her live up to her contract and respopsibility was what you were debating? They are being strict and discharging her. Good. The reason it took so long to get to this place is her deceit and the Army giving her a chance to a point to become a good soldier. To be honest, I never was happy with women being allowed in combat areas. Especially now in Muslim countries with their attitudes towards women it makes even less sense. Keep women out of combat areas and things like this wouldn't happen.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Which side of this debate are you on? LOL I thought the Army being strict and making her live up to her contract and respopsibility was what you were debating? They are being strict and discharging her. Good. The reason it took so long to get to this place is her deceit and the Army giving her a chance to a point to become a good soldier. To be honest, I never was happy with women being allowed in combat areas. Especially now in Muslim countries with their attitudes towards women it makes even less sense. Keep women out of combat areas and things like this wouldn't happen.
I agree. Combat is for men. There is a reason why we never let them do it before. It goes against their nature, and they are a liability waiting to happen. If a squad gets captured and one is female, the men will instinctively be more troubled by her being tortured than if it was a man.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I agree. Combat is for men. There is a reason why we never let them do it before. It goes against their nature, and they are a liability waiting to happen. If a squad gets captured and one is female, the men will instinctively be more troubled by her being tortured than if it was a man.
Apparently you know nothing about the "nature" of women.
There are military organizations throughout the world that have no problem with women serving.

Do tell, what is the "nature" of women, in your esteemed opinion.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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Women serving I have no trouble with. But look at the Middle East. Muslims have a totally different attitude as to women and their dress. Now we show up and women are walking around in t-shirts and barking orders. Kinda goes against the grain of the locals, I believe (tongue in cheek). A far cry from their women running aroound in burkas (spelling?) and being quiet. But we can't say women can't go there. Wouldn't be politically correct.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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I think women running around barking orders is probably less offensive than the deaths of 100k+ Iraqis that are dead as a result of our ill conceived attack on a sovereign nation.
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think women running around barking orders is probably less offensive than the deaths of 100k+ Iraqis that are dead as a result of our ill conceived attack on a sovereign nation.
100k?
Really?
Killed by whom?
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:36 PM
 
Location: 3.5 sq mile island ant nest next to Canada
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I think women running around barking orders is probably less offensive than the deaths of 100k+ Iraqis that are dead as a result of our ill conceived attack on a sovereign nation.
I've got serious doubts about that.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:53 PM
 
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Some of the earlier comments here have surprised me.

Some stating "oh she knew the risks going in..." elude me b/c knowing risks in any situation makes it no easier. Judging from the article it seems she tried to rectify the situation (albeit poorly) and that didn't work out in her or the child's favor.

Some of you folks seem willing to judge this soldier's character based on her mistake. But I'm certain no one here knows her, or even what kind of soldier she is. So how can you know?


(this taken from the article): 'However just a few days before Specialist Hutchinson was scheduled to deploy she was told that she would not get the extended time after all and would have to deploy, even though there was no one to care for her child'

So, unless the article is lying, is she just supposed to leave her child?
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