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Old 11-18-2009, 05:11 PM
 
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I took a couple quotes I saw reposted on a few different sites i thought were fairly non-partisan and took the authors at their word.

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Ok, I also don't believe he approved of that poster, but maybe you know better. Even though he is very critical of US foreign policy, imo he wouldn't go that far and approve of that kind of poster.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:23 PM
 
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Ok, I also don't believe he approved of that poster, but maybe you know better. Even though he is very critical of US foreign policy, imo he wouldn't go that far and approve of that kind of poster.
It is irrefutable that the poster was uploaded and posted on Ron Paul's website.

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Old 11-18-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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OK, since I see people bashing "liberals" all the time, I ask myself who these liberals are.
I know what liberal means, also I know there is a Libertarian Party in the US. Ron Paul, a politican I respect a lot, is a member of that party.
But when people bash liberals, I feel like they bash Democrats. Are Democrats liberals?
Liberals are for a small government, personal freedom and unregulated markets. So everything right-wingers seem to like (according to the posts on CD).
Ron Paul has run for Potus as a Republican. And he is a liberal.

Then why do some right-wingers here on CD call people that are definitely not Republican "liberals"?

My question is serious, and I hope someone can help me out. Thanks.

Pam in America Conservatives stand for free markets, small government and lower taxes. (This is the right of the American political spectrum)
Republicans generally hold most of these positions however some move to the left of the American political spectrum.
Liberal want to expand the role of government. They view taxation as a means to stimulate economic development and correct imbalance in the socio-economic strata. (This is the left of the American political spectrum)
Democrats in general lean to this liberal perspective.

Some democrats are more to the center just as some Republicans are more to the center from their side.

The term “right wingers” is a derogatory term used by those who identify with the American Liberal view. It is used to marginalize people they disagree with.

American Libertarians are the extreme of the right in American politics. They believe in unregulated markets, no laws against personal liberty (like prostitution and drug use). They want very little government. Ron Paul fits this. He also believes in reinstituting the Gold Standard. I don’t know about all Libertarians, but they do in general favor dissolving the Federal Reserve System in favor of a les a faire economic policy.

Conservatives in America do not have the same genesis as European Conservatives. The conservatives here look to Classical Liberalism of John Locke etc instead of the European monarchist view. This might be part of your confusion.

The charge of socialism that Conservatives make against American Liberals (and the national Democratic Party) stems from the liberal propensity to raise taxes especially on the wealthy in conjunction with expanding the role of government in the lives of lower and middle class people. This “redistribution of wealth” is in many ways socialist in nature and generally opposed by Conservatives.


Hope that helps….
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