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Old 11-19-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Are all of those surveillance cameras in convenience stores profiling AAs also when they are robbing it?


i see video of white guys too. But in any case that would be media bias. Ie showing another black guy robbing a store is good tv.

 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Simply because African Americans are often jealous of one another. If one makes 5 more dollars more a year than the other AA, violence can really break out. If a 16 year old drives a '98 Toyota Camry and a 25 year old doesn't have a car or drives a '97 Camry, the one that drives the '97 goes crazy and gets jealous. Jealousy is the number one reason why we have more black-on-black crimes than black-on-white. IT's SICKENING!!
I believe you are correct. I think there is a lot of anger and bitterness among blacks who for whatever reason find themselves unable to compete in this capitalistic society. They either lack the mental capacity, ability, initiative or inclination to compete and end up doing very poorly. Then they resent those, black or white, who seem to be able to compete and are headed for success. The resentment, bitterness and anger is a big reason for violence, the crime and a host of other social pathologies.

Do you have any ideas as to how we as a society can assuage this resentment, anger and bitterness? I think it starts with being unable or unwilling to compete (i.e. try hard) in school. What can be done with those who may not have the aptitude for academics? There's got to be something else for them where they can feel just as successful as the academics.

- Reel
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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You are incorrect. That is the typical liberal nonsense designed to obscure what is really going on. There is more crime in poor black neighborhoods than there is in poor white neighborhoods.

It's true that more crime is commited in poor neighborhoods than middle or upper class neighborhoods and this includes poor white neighborhoods. But why is there so much more crime in poor black neighborhoods? Obviously something else is going on.

- Reel

yes the profiling of black people and thier neighborhoods
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:23 PM
 
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Come on guy. I'm 10 steps ahead of you. Do you seriously think that anyone, including myself, would look at crime statistics and NOT factor in poverty or socio-economics? Of course they are a factor. That much is a given. Is your modus operandi to constantly state the obvious? If so, you're definitely doing a good job.

Poverty and socio-economics of the city I lived in were certainly a factor to the increased crime rates. Which is precisely why I moved out into the suburbs. White folks. Less Crime. Statistically conducive to the lifestyle I sought. Pretty simple concept really.
show me than don't just say it
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:24 PM
 
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You made me laugh out loud. Read the whole post. Blacks are under-represented in stops, my friend. If they are commiting 80% of the shootings according to victims and witnesses then they might should be stopped 80% of the time and not at the rate of their numbers in the population.

- Reel

ummmmmm your post said 24% of population and 52 % of stops
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:26 PM
 
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You know damn well that no government agency is going to put that out...and you know why!

where did you get it from then....your own opinion??
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:26 PM
 
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yes the profiling of black people and thier neighborhoods
Geeeez! This is the second time I've laughed out loud on this thread today. Does this South Side of Chicago know this? Hey, just stop racial profiling and the killing will cease. That's utter nonsense.

Yeah, I'm sure there is just as much killing going on in poor white neighborhoods. It's just that there's no profiling there. Ridiculous.

- Reel
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:29 PM
 
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This is a typical debate tactic here on CD. If someone says something you don't like just ask them for links or official statistics. The theory being if they don't bother to do your research then they must be wrong. It's a lazy-man's debate tactic.

I read a lot and I've read a lot on this issue. So I 'googled' it and came up with a link:

FACE FACTS ON FRISKS

There is a lot out there if you are interested. Just google it and do your own research.

- Reel

you realize you are supporting what we said about profiling right??
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:39 PM
 
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you realize you are supporting what we said about profiling right??
I think you missed the point of the article. The point is that blacks are actually under represented in stops as compared to the rate at which they commit crimes. If police stopped whites and blacks the same as they are represented in society, they would be ignoring where the crime is actually being committed. You seem to think that if blacks are only 24% of the city they should only be 24% of the stops despite the fact that they commit 80% of the violent crime. I don't think stopping blacks in proportion to the crimes they commit is profiling.

- Reel
 
Old 11-19-2009, 04:59 PM
 
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Because it would be called a racist report by the government...

That did not stop the department of justice putting out the statistics spanning 1976-2005 violent crime by race. This seems to be the statistic of favorite by posters on C-D. Apparently the poster above that has quoted several different statistics concerning the black community received documented data from somewhere
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