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Old 11-21-2009, 05:45 PM
 
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well, that didn't start with Obama either, nor Bush, nor Clinton, nor Daddy Bush, nor Regan....

Need we continue??

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federal student aid...thats what its for....to help pay for college tuition & fees at most colleges & universities.

you didnt know this?
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:53 PM
 
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Not for open borders or unlimited immigration. Nor am I a "kid" that thinks everything should be handed to them on a silver platter.

In fact, I'm a guy who had more like 25 hrs of classes and worked about 20 hrs a week. I took out loans for my tuition. I got about 10k in scholarships. I worked hard to get where I'm at.

Most kids in the UC system are like me. My family is very typical of the average UC demographic. Suburban Californian with a family making roughly 80-100k a year. One parent college educated. One immigrant parent. Pretty much the average demographic of a UC student. I got a 4.5 in high school. 1220 SATs (out of 1600).

But your false nostalgia and warped political views are such that we shouldn't focus on the future doctors, lawyers, adminstrators, teachers, scientists, etc...

It's actually better for business to have an educated population. Hence why CA, despite all its problems, remains a place of innovation.

If it wasn't for the UC system and other universities in CA, we would have a much poorer CA.
I don't think CA can BE much poorer. And the UC system is one of the reasons.

CA may have been a place of innovation, but those innovators are heading for the hills. They're leaving to other states, where they can be free to innovate. It may be good for business to have an educated population, but it's also good for the employee.

CA education system is such a mess.....and it starts at the top, with bloated salaries for bureaucrats that refuse to share the pain of CA's economic situation.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:55 PM
 
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The crisis in CA has nothing to do with Obama. Please grow up, this is not a partisan issue.
It is. The Democrats with a RINO governor have destroyed California.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:56 PM
 
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CA education system is such a mess.....and it starts at the top, with bloated salaries for bureaucrats that refuse to share the pain of CA's economic situation.[/quote]

There you have it. The elitists don't give one damn for the little people.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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That's an interesting take. They are rioting since my generation was given less of a chance to obtain the middle class lifestyle as your generation. Because the past squandered it BS. That my generation has to subsidize your generation.
As someone who started college during Obama's first term (1979), it's not much different. Add to that the fact that my first house had an interest rate of 13%, I'm not sure why you think you have been given less of a chance at the american dream. I went to college, bought a house, and pay my bills.

It's called hard work, smart choices, and living within your means. And, oh yeah, making your own way.

You may subsidize the baby boomer generation, but as someone without children, I subsidized your education. I call that fair.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:07 PM
 
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It is. The Democrats with a RINO governor have destroyed California.

You live in Texas. Do you even know who the last three governors were? Do you know how the legislative process works in CA?

It is obvious that you don't.... and don't even try Googling it now. It is amazing that you believe the current legislature is responsible for the drop in tax revenue in the state. Yeah...

Students have been protesting increases in fees for the last 20 years at least... We've had Republican governors for most of that time.

This has nothing to do with Obama.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:12 PM
 
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When the revenue drops, taxes need to go up and programs need to be cut.

No other choice. Arnie can't just print up money like Bernake can. Although he can issue IOU's.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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well, that didn't start with Obama either, nor Bush, nor Clinton, nor Daddy Bush, nor Regan....

Need we continue??
nope...
if it wasnt for student aid...i doubt i would have the privilege of going to college. i'm unemployed so i have no choice but to go back to school now.


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Old 11-21-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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The communist/marxist/socialist got mad in the 60's too when their funds were cut for going to UCofB. At least this time they left the sawed-off shotguns and Molotov cocktails at home, so far.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:08 PM
 
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tuition hikes are fine...until the day comes when college is no longer within the reach of our young.

Still, I cannot understand why colleges need more and more and more. I'm genuinely asking b/c I don't know. Rutgers Univ. in NJ is a part of this phenomenon: tuition hikes for 'need' but yet they borrowed money for a football stadium expansion.
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