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Old 11-19-2009, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Pa
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hard to avoid natural disasters since the US is prone to everything from earthquakes to floods to tornadoes to hurricanes.
I have insurance to compensate in such a event.
Only true to a point.
You build a house next to a river. What questions what risks should you be worried about? Do you want to risk loosing everything on a fairly regular basis?
You have insurance as do I. But I also thought about a few things and made my risks a minimum. At least as much as humanly possible.
I didn't build next to a river, or below sea level or in tornado alley.
If I built in Tornado alley I would build an Earth shelter. No not full proof but certainly less dangerous than a trailor.
Thats my point. Relying on others to make things all right for you is foolish at best and down right stupid at worst.
The Fed should be condemning these properties that get wrecked year after year.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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There is so much blame to go around on the Katrina disaster that I don't know where to start.

Bad levees is the fault of the Army COE.
Governor was a idiot.
Mayor was a moron.
A bunch of the NOPD deserted their posts.
FEMA response was pitiful.
Bush did a flyover, gee Mom, look at all that water....

All I know is that yet again the world shakes its head in disbelief at the folly and decrepitude in our "rich" nation ... Katrina disaster ... the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis ... ludicrous border security ... 45M w/out health insurance ... thousands of soldiers dead/maimed from IED attacks on poorly armored Humvee's ... soldiers buying steel plates from local Iraqi businesses to up-armor their Humvee's ... the list goes on and on ... not to mention that the handling of the aftermath of Katrina is still an on-going mess
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yeah all those busses and trains that remained parked and got flooded didn't run anyway huh?
This was the fault of the local governments.
Did you ever see the evacuation plan that Nagin had ready to use? It was beautiful but he never tried to use it when he should have before the hurricane hit, only after the flood hit did he try and then his buses were under water.

That plan was a beauty and would have worked if applied before the hurricane not after it.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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From what I understand, money was issued to the state to fix these problems and the city kept using the money for other things and ignored fixing it. How is this the fault of the Engineers?
You have the correct information but the Dems in control of the city and state government just didn't want to waste all that money on flood control.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I blame Bush for Katrina.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I blame Bush for Katrina.
We already knew this
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I blame Bush for Katrina.
Bush caused a Hurricane?
Bush didn't let NO or LA use the money given to them way back when for Levee upgrades?
Or Bush was in charge of letting people know that hey when it floods and you live next to a river that the river won't skip your house?
NO owns the how bad Katrina was for them. They live there they understood the risks and yet ignored the risks. They own it.
I live on a Mountain. We get some rough winters. We have power outages quite often.
I double insulated, I have a top shelf stand by generator and plenty of fuel for it.
That is taking responsibility for where I chose to live.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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There is so much blame to go around on the Katrina disaster that I don't know where to start.

Bad levees is the fault of the Army COE.
Governor was a idiot.
Mayor was a moron.
A bunch of the NOPD deserted their posts.
FEMA response was pitiful.
Bush did a flyover, gee Mom, look at all that water....

All I know is that yet again the world shakes its head in disbelief at the folly and decrepitude in our "rich" nation ... Katrina disaster ... the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis ... ludicrous border security ... 45M w/out health insurance ... thousands of soldiers dead/maimed from IED attacks on poorly armored Humvee's ... soldiers buying steel plates from local Iraqi businesses to up-armor their Humvee's ... the list goes on and on ... not to mention that the handling of the aftermath of Katrina is still an on-going mess
I sure won't disagree with all you say but the FEMA thing tends to be political in nature. They had all the food and water they needed on the ground in Baton Rouge before the storm hit and then they couldn't get it into the city because of the flood. They flew in a lot by helicopter, but larger planes would have been nice but then you still had to get the supplies into the city.

All kinds of people were wrong about that one but Nagin was the one who owes those people the most and if he had ordered the evacuation on Saturday when he should have most of them would have refused to leave and had to be forced to leave.

Too much blame and lots of people to stack it on, I agree with you about that.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I blame Bush for Katrina.
Have you ever heard of the huge fan that Bush and Cheney had in the Gulf that blew up that storm along with Rita? Then they rented it to China for the huge storm that blew up on them. I don't what happened to that fan after 2005 but it has to be around somewhere.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:33 PM
 
Location: TX and NM on the border of the Great Southwest.
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I agree with those here who say there were people during Katrina who could not get out of New Orleans. It took me four years to get out of that sweaty armpit of a city.
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