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Old 11-22-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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WooHoo, GW is fake! Let's roll out some more Hummers, bring back leaded gasoline, burn coal day and nite, let industry dump more pollutants into our rivers and lakes, and use up all our fosil fuels. Hey, the end is near anyway, right?
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What's wrong? Unhappy that trillions in wealth distribution based on a hoax has been exposed?

Aren't you the least bit upset you've been duped?
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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WooHoo, GW is fake! Let's roll out some more Hummers, bring back leaded gasoline, burn coal day and nite, let industry dump more pollutants into our rivers and lakes, and use up all our fosil fuels. Hey, the end is near anyway, right?
Strawmen rejoice!
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Even The Brits do not trust Gore because HE LIES!!!!

New Documentary Challenges Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' on Global Warming - FOXNews.com

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In 2007, a British High Court judge ruled that Al Gore's global warming film contained nine significant errors and should no longer be screened in schools unless accompanied by guidance notes to balance Gore's "one-sided" views.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...ategate_latest

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The emails show the astonishing funds behind warmist scientists - with nearly $25 million going to Professor Phil Jones alone. The American Thinker points out the hypcrisy of warming preachers for then denouncing sceptical scientists such as Richard Lindzen as Big Oil shills for having charged, in his case, just $10,000 to appear as an expert witness 20 years ago.
So...it seem Dr. Jones has really made a killing all these years...around $25 Million.

What was that I remember those GW fanatics screeching about "deniers" and the big oil money behind them? All these years, they've been droning on and on about the false claim that "deniers" are contradicted, when in fact it has been the "believers" all along.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6927598.ece

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Astonishingly, what appears, at least at first blush, to have emerged is that (a) the scientists have been manipulating the raw temperature figures to show a relentlessly rising global warming trend; (b) they have consistently refused outsiders access to the raw data; (c) the scientists have been trying to avoid freedom of information requests; and (d) they have been discussing ways to prevent papers by dissenting scientists being published in learned journals.
Are these the actions of ethical scientists willing to have their results reproduced?
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Dr. Jones;

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Bottom line - their is no way the MWP (whenever it was) was as warm globally as the last 20 years. There is also no way a whole decade in the LIA period was more than 1 deg C on a global basis cooler than the 1961-90 mean. This is all gut feeling, no science, but years of experience of dealing with global scales and varaibility.
Of course, then we make sure the science fits the gut feeling. Having your mind already made up kind of defeats the purpose of objective research.....just keep fudging the numbers until you get the result you're gut feeling is expecting.

What a sham....and isn't this the most wonderful thing you've seen in a while?
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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Follow the research money ;scientiast are adicted to it.They go after it just like politcans go after campign funding;without it their colleges get rid of them.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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This is a nice one;

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Yeah, it wasn’t so much 1998 and all that that I was concerned about, used

to dealing with that, but the possibility that we might be going through a

longer – 10 year – period of relatively stable temperatures beyond what you

might expect from La Nina etc.

Speculation, but if I see this as a possibility then others might also.

Anyway, I’ll maybe cut the last few points off the filtered curve before I

give the talk again as that’s trending down as a result of the end effects

and the recent cold-ish years.
Yeah, just shave a few points off so no one might notice the cooling trend.
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The HARRY_READ_ME.txt file could be the most disturbing of all the documents on that zip file. The underlying data files are apparently a friggin mess.

"Global Warming" SCAM - Hack/Leak FLASH [Ticker] - MarketTicker Forums
“a very disturbing HARRY_READ_ME.txt file” « Climate Audit – mirror site
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Old 11-23-2009, 04:30 AM
 
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From HARRY_READ_ME.txt

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Here, the expected 1990-2003 period is MISSING - so the correlations aren't so hot! Yet
the WMO codes and station names /locations are identical (or close). What the hell is
supposed to happen here? Oh yeah - there is no 'supposed', I can make it up. So I have :-)

If an update station matches a 'master' station by WMO code, but the data is unpalatably
inconsistent, the operator is given three choices:

<BEGIN QUOTE>
You have failed a match despite the WMO codes matching.
This must be resolved!! Please choose one:

1. Match them after all.
2. Leave the existing station alone, and discard the update.
3. Give existing station a false code, and make the update the new WMO station.

Enter 1,2 or 3:
<END QUOTE>

You can't imagine what this has cost me - to actually allow the operator to assign false
WMO codes!! But what else is there in such situations? Especially when dealing with a 'Master'
database of dubious provenance (which, er, they all are and always will be).


False codes will be obtained by multiplying the legitimate code (5 digits) by 100, then adding
1 at a time until a number is found with no matches in the database. THIS IS NOT PERFECT but as
there is no central repository for WMO codes - especially made-up ones - we'll have to chance
duplicating one that's present in one of the other databases. In any case, anyone comparing WMO
codes between databases - something I've studiously avoided doing except for tmin/tmax where I
had to - will be treating the false codes with suspicion anyway. Hopefully.

Of course, option 3 cannot be offered for CLIMAT bulletins, there being no metadata with which
to form a new station.

This still meant an awful lot of encounters with naughty Master stations, when really I suspect
nobody else gives a hoot about. So with a somewhat cynical shrug, I added the nuclear option -
to match every WMO possible, and turn the rest into new stations (er, CLIMAT excepted). In other
words, what CRU usually do. It will allow bad databases to pass unnoticed, and good databases to
become bad, but I really don't think people care enough to fix 'em, and it's the main reason the
project is nearly a year late.

And there are STILL WMO code problems!!! Let's try again with the issue. Let's look at the first
station in most of the databases, JAN MAYEN. Here it is in various recent databases:
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