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As I understand it, the public option is to provide insurance for people who can't get it through their employers. I didn't know it was supposed to help drive down costs as well. If it does, so much the better. We could all stand to pay less (though I doubt it will happen).
Really? Wasn't that THE reason for reform - to get the cost under control?
Really? Wasn't that THE reason for reform - to get the cost under control?
The main goal is to increase access, e.g. insure more people. Cost control is a part of that. I don't know if the "public option" was ever intended to be cheaper than pvt insurance.
Hopefully, we will soon abandon those costly and useless wars that Bush got us into and put money into the infrastructure and people of America instead.
Your boy Obama (or the Democratic congress) won't be ending the wars in Afghanistan or Iraq. So in addition to wasting money in those countries, we'll be spending billions of dollars on this health care "reform" bill.
More war, more blood, more spending, more debt, more taxes...Good job Democrats!
I dare you to find me ONE Dem thats seriously at risk for the 2010 elections.
The Republican hoping for dems to lose deal is just getting silly. Repubs said they would win big in 2006. They didnt. They said it again in 2008. They didnt. Now theyre saying theyll take 2010 when the actual numbers for practically every incumbent up for re-election stays in Dem favor.
Saying and hoping does not make it so, Republicans. You need to change your strategy, because the greater American public is getting more and more turned off to you.
The fact that the party does not have a leader to tell its ranks this (infact its leaders at this point are extremists like Beck and Limbaugh or Buffoons like Palin) = not good.
The GOP is sinking like the titanic while telling the world its the Queen Mary.
The dinosaur GOP is slowly becoming extinct because their ideas and politics are outdated and useless. As the "good-ole-boy" voters die off, so will the Republican party.
That has nothing to do with the current legislation. No one is proposing a government take-over of health care.
They don't have to propose it. They know what the final result will be if government steps in to make things "available" and/or "affordable", it has a track record at least a century long. It doesn't, can't and won't play fair.
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HUD officials we contacted said that the department lacks sufficient staff and resources necessary to carry out its GSE mission oversight responsibilities. HUD officials said that although the GSEs’ assets have increased nearly six-fold since 1992, HUD’s staffing has declined by 4,200 positions and GSE oversight—which now consists of about 13 full-time positions—must compete with other department priorities for the limited resources available. The President’s 2005 budget includes a proposal that would allow HUD to assess Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for the cost of its mission oversight.
Interesting that you can talk about healthcare in terms of a right and quote the Declaration..."Life, Liberty and...". What is your position on abortion? How about late term abortion?
I not sure the the abortion issue has a place in the healthcare reform issue. But, I am not totally against it either, I have mixed feelings about that issue and if it is included, there will surely be some conflict with the Supreme Court decision. It's just that I believe the Supreme Court has pretty much established the National position on that issue. If you and others think that opinion is wrong, then I feel that is where the efforts should go to change it.
And Tort Reform. Add those two elements in with this bill and you REALLY have a kick butt BIll that goes a long way. This one does go leaps and bounds.. but those two elements would put it squarely in the huge column.
Not that I disagree with TORT reform but:
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CBO now estimates, on the basis of an analysis incorporating the results of recent research, that if a package of proposals such as those described above was enacted, it would reduce total national health care spending by about 0.5 percent (about $11 billion in 2009). That figure is the sum of the direct reduction in spending of 0.2 percent from lower medical liability premiums, as discussed earlier, and an additional indirect reduction of 0.3 percent from slightly less utilization of health care services. (That reduction is the estimated net effect of the entire package listed earlier, although some components of that package might increase the utilization of physicians’ services, as has already been noted.) CBO’s estimate takes into account the fact that because many states have already implemented some of the changes in the package, a significant fraction of the potential cost savings has already been realized.
They don't have to propose it. They know what the final result will be if government steps in to make things "available" or "affordable", it has a track record at least a century long. It doesn't, can't and won't play fair.
Well, I don't know. As has been pointed out, the Postal Service hasn't exactly sunk UPS or Fed Ex. The existence of the military hasn't kept private contractors from making billions in defense contracts (and has, actually, provided their income). Having oversight of transportation systems hasn't hurt private construction companies (and has, in fact, helped them).
The dinosaur GOP is slowly becoming extinct because their ideas and politics are outdated and useless. As the "good-ole-boy" voters die off, so will the Republican party.
Oh right. We just won two huge governorships, all the polls for 2010 are trending big time towards the GOP.......yeah, a dying party.
Several Democrats have already said that they will not vote for a final bill that includes a public option, but there are also not enough votes to remove it. What's the point of going on and on debating a bill that we all know will not pass in the end?
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