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Both socialism and communism abolish private property ownership and replace it with collective ownership - with the STATE having the superior claim.
MARXISM 101:
COMMUNISM - the ownership of property, or means of production, distribution and supply, by the whole of a classless society, with wealth shared on the principle of 'to each according to his need', each yielding fully 'according to his ability'.
- - - Webster's Dictionary.
SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and control of distribution. It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and protection which the community can provide.
--- Webster's dictionary
Socialism and communism = COLLECTIVE ownership.
From the Communist manifesto:
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
But American law protects private property
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Communism, Socialism, and Marxism abolish private property ownership and replaces it with collective ownership, with the superior rights in the State.
In plain English, "collectivists" are PIRATES, seeking to steal other people's property, by force of government, and share the booty among themselves.
Of course, this explains why the "left" abhor religions that teach: "Thou Shalt Not Steal".
"Collectivists" hate any religion that would expose them as thieving pirates and slavers... a most unpleasant truth to embrace.
The majority of the American people do NOT favor collective ownership of real estate and businesses. Communism would never take root in the United States. Contrary to the beliefs of many of those on the Right most Liberals have no interest in communism.
Communism as an economic system has been pretty much repudiated around the world. Even Cuba is considering making free market reforms.
The association of communism with Liberals is a scare tactic designed to heighten the fears of the uninformed.
The majority of the American people do NOT favor collective ownership of real estate and businesses. Communism would never take root in the United States. Contrary to the beliefs of many of those on the Right most Liberals have no interest in communism.
Communism as an economic system has been pretty much repudiated around the world. Even Cuba is considering making free market reforms.
The association of communism with Liberals is a scare tactic designed to heighten the fears of the uninformed.
With all due respect, what if you are a victim of the world's greatest propaganda ministry? What if your information is disinformation?
First mistake, assuming that a country that claims it is communist, has achieved communism. Even the former USSR admitted to have only achieved socialism (which is still collective ownership).
And when it comes down to it, Americans have not had a "normal" government since 1933. (Capitalism was abolished in 1935, via FICA)
For 40 years [1933-1973], freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency.
Do not believe me - go read the law, and the declarations and the executive orders empowered by the "emergency". Oh, right, you should also know the cause of the "emergency" - it was bankruptcy. The U.S. government went bankrupt in 1933, was re-organized and now prosecutes the bankruptcy for the benefit of the creditor, whose fiduciary agent is the Federal Reserve corporation.
"Federal Reserve notes are "backed" by all the goods and services in the economy."
"All the goods and services" YOU thought was yours - was stolen by Congress and pledged to the Federal Reserve Corporation.
DO NOT BELIEVE ME - go read Title 12 USC Sec. 411.
"Dollar bills" are obligations of the US government to pay lawful money (gold coin) on demand. That promise was repudiated in 1933.
Now, here's the TOUGH QUESTION :
What transferred the goods and services of the private people to the government?
Look up "contributor" in a legal reference. And then look at the title of FICA.
SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and control of distribution. It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and protection which the community can provide.
--- Webster's dictionary
Based on the fact that the government has a claim on "all" goods and services to redeem their notes, means that CONGRESS can tax away everything you own. If YOU don't own your property, and the government can take it away, it's not PRIVATE PROPERTY.
From the Communist manifesto: "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
The government has admitted that it can TAKE away your property without paying just compensation, to back their worthless dollar bills.
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I don't know if you have noticed or not, but the vast majority of americans do not share the same culture. The thing that truly divides a country is culture. It isn't necessarily religion or the color of ones skin. In Europe there are many many small countries who had been warring with each other for forever. But why? They are all white? They are all Christians, and many of them were Roman Catholic nations up until the protestant reformation. So what really divides us? What makes us different? It is our culture.
Our culture is things like our traditions, its the way we dress, its our music, its our common language, its a common religion, its societal norms, and more.
If you look at a map of Europe over the last many thousand years, you'll see a funny thing. There have been many empires(Romans/Byzantine/etc) and there have been many countries that have total control of large areas(Germany/Russia/France/England/etc), but what eventually happened? The much different cultures eventually caused the countries to fight for independence and break off.
The way I see the United States is almost like the Roman Empire, you had white Italians that ran the country from Rome, and they were trying to control a vast empire of North Africans, Middle-easterners, and other western Europeans. These people had very dissimilar cultures, they only stayed a part of the Roman Empire because of its military and economic strength. As soon as the Roman Empire went into decline, vast swaths of the old Roman Empire either broke off or were conquered by outsiders.
Sometimes I ask myself why this country stays together. We seem to all be so different. There seems to be more and more problems every single day. The country is more and more divided on issues like immigration, language, and religion. Even things like the way we dress, the music we listen to, and societal norms(gay marriage) are constantly under heavy scrutiny. These things we fight about are our culture, they are what defines us as a people. How can a country divided so heavily in their own culture stay together?
Just like the Roman Empire, its really all about the greatness of Rome, about the power and wealth we possess, and the vast territory we control. It isn't because this country is truly great. Basically, we are rich, so we don't want a civil war or we would lose our quality of life. We don't want a civil war, because then what would happen to our once mighty military's grip on the world?
Do you believe if this country had the economic power of Iraq that we would stay together as one big happy country? Are we really that United? Honestly I don't feel like this country is United at all.
Would it really be such a terrible thing to break the country up to be more like Europe? We could have our United Kingdom(New England area), our France(Mid-Atlantic states), our Germany(Pacific Northwest), our Spain(The southwest), our Baltic States(the Midwest), and our Eastern Europe(The south).
That way we could actually run our own section of the country in a way reflective of what our people want. We could control immigration, trade policies, have our own military, etc. Wouldn't we be happier?
Because despite the hyperbole that you guys throw around here daily, we are not nearly as divided as you'd like to think. In fact I'd argue we have many more similarities than we have differences.
It is more than a matter of just the left and the right splitting up. In the Deep South, the race factor is something to consider. I have already explained some of the statistics regarding who is voting for who. What I meant by Yugoslavia is this. There have been deep-seated tensions between the ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia. They are all "South Slavs" in a sense. Their languages are quite similar, their ancestry is similar, but practice different religions. Under Tito, "Yugoslavia" was founded as a way to keep from being absorbed by "non-Slavic people". Under this union, ethnic groups stilled struggled for power. Under Tito, each "republic" had its own parliament. After Tito died, Yugoslavia slowly started to unravel. When Slobodan Milosevic came along and took advantage of ethnic conflicts. Things got worse after that, as all of the republics were looking for their own independence, there were many who started to go after one another. There was alot of ethnic cleansing. When people want power, sometimes people will go to many lengths.
What I mean is that if there was a break up, it might not be just about the left and the right. In northern states, it might be about that. In the southern states, there is the added factor of race to deal with. When the South seceded, this is when the Civil War started. The North and the South went at it. The North won and then there was Reconstruction. Many in the South didn't want the military there. Much of it had to do with the slaves being freed and being able to vote alongside Whites. When the military left, then things in the South got hairy. Jim Crow segregation was established, along with alot of other bad things.
A split up could mean alot of problems down the road.
Well we wouldn't have to split up right along state lines, if we really did I doubt it would be along state lines. It would be good for one thing though we'd finally get to see which way works. I don't think people on my side of the fence would bother anybody though, all we would want is our own spot and to be left alone.
Well we wouldn't have to split up right along state lines, if we really did I doubt it would be along state lines. It would be good for one thing though we'd finally get to see which way works. I don't think people on my side of the fence would bother anybody though, all we would want is our own spot and to be left alone.
Somehow, I don't know if it would be along state lines. If it's not, then there would be another mess. There will be some who want to stay and those that don't. What you would have in that instance is a fragmented nation.
Somehow, I don't know if it would be along state lines. If it's not, then there would be another mess. There will be some who want to stay and those that don't. What you would have in that instance is a fragmented nation.
That's true, but except for the Gov. the nation is already fragmented, up untill ten years I would listen to people complain about the other side and it would get nasty , but at the end of the rant most would always say "Well we disagree with them a lot but they're still good Americans they just have a different way of seeing things" and that statement by the way was made by some of the biggest Rednecks you could ever meet. I don't hear that statement any more even from the fence sitters that like to stay out of it. (by the way I'm a Redneck before anybody gets mad that I put that up there.)
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