Mr. PRESENT, thinks he made up his mind about sending troops... (legal, Kennedy)
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The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 [1], Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.
That's SO weird, because if Congress "Declared War", it makes one wonder why Ron Paul was asking Congress to "Declare War" a year later...
Paul Calls for Congressional Declaration of War against Iraq (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr100402.htm - broken link)
What's cool is that if you actually READ the link (inconvenient to your argument, so I'm guessing you won't) you'll also see the difference between WWII and Iraq in the last paragraph....
The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 [1], Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.
The U.S. has made 5 "Declaration of War".
War of 1812
Mexican/American War
Spanish/American War
World War I
World War II
I wasn't alive for any of them. I was alive and in Vietnam. I fully understand what War is like and am appreciative of this President getting the objectives and plans clear. I know what it is like when that is not done.
That's SO weird, because if Congress "Declared War", it makes one wonder why Ron Paul was asking Congress to "Declare War" a year later...
Paul Calls for Congressional Declaration of War against Iraq (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr100402.htm - broken link)
What's cool is that if you actually READ the link (inconvenient to your argument, so I'm guessing you won't) you'll also see the difference between WWII and Iraq in the last paragraph....
A year later? This was just months before. It's not dated to show the push Ron made before we went.
Paul Calls for Congressional Declaration of War with Iraq
Washington, DC: Congressman Ron Paul, insisting that the House International Relations committee follow constitutional principles, yesterday introduced a formal congressional declaration of war with Iraq. The language of the declaration was very clear: "A state of war is declared to exist between the United States and the government of Iraq."
"I don’t believe in resolutions that cite the UN as authority for our military actions," Paul stated yesterday after a committee hearing. "America has a sovereign right to defend itself, and we don’t need UN permission or approval to act in the interests of American national security. The decision to go to war should be made by the U.S. Congress alone. Congress should give the President full warmaking authority, rather than binding him with resolutions designed to please our UN detractors."
"Sadly, the leadership of both parties on the International Relations committee fails to understand that the Constitution requires a congressional declaration of war before our troops are sent into battle," Paul continued. "One Republican member stated that the constitutional requirement that Congress declare war is an anachronism and should no longer be followed," while a Democratic member said that a declaration of war would be ‘frivolous.’ I don’t think most Americans believe our Constitution is outdated or frivolous, and they expect Congress to follow it."
"When Congress issued clear declarations of war against Japan and Germany during World War II, the nation was committed and victory was achieved," Paul concluded. "When Congress shirks its duty and avoids declaring war, as with Korea, and Vietnam, the nation is less committed and the goals are less clear. No lives should be lost in Iraq unless Congress expresses the clear will of the American people and votes yes or no on a declaration of war."
and Congress did sign, or they would have not even been involved in signing anything. It would have been another military action.
Let it be clearly understood- there is no authority to wage war against Iraq without Congress passing a Declaration of War. HJ RES 65, passed in the aftermath of 9/11, does not even suggest that this authority exists. A UN Resolution authorizing an invasion of Iraq, even if it were to come, cannot replace the legal process for the United States going to war as precisely defined in the Constitution. We must remember that a covert war is no more justifiable, and is even more reprehensible.
Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. The planned war against Iraq without a Declaration of War is illegal. It is unwise because of many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result. It is immoral and unjust, because it has nothing to do with US security and because Iraq has not initiated aggression against us.
We must understand that the American people become less secure when we risk a major conflict driven by commercial interests and not constitutionally authorized by Congress. Victory under these circumstances is always elusive, and unintended consequences are inevitable.
Ron Paul, M.D., represents the 14th Congressional District of Texas in the United States House of Representatives.
A year later? This was just months before. It's not dated to show the push Ron made before we went.
Paul Calls for Congressional Declaration of War with Iraq
Washington, DC: Congressman Ron Paul, insisting that the House International Relations committee follow constitutional principles, yesterday introduced a formal congressional declaration of war with Iraq. The language of the declaration was very clear: "A state of war is declared to exist between the United States and the government of Iraq."
"I don’t believe in resolutions that cite the UN as authority for our military actions," Paul stated yesterday after a committee hearing. "America has a sovereign right to defend itself, and we don’t need UN permission or approval to act in the interests of American national security. The decision to go to war should be made by the U.S. Congress alone. Congress should give the President full warmaking authority, rather than binding him with resolutions designed to please our UN detractors."
"Sadly, the leadership of both parties on the International Relations committee fails to understand that the Constitution requires a congressional declaration of war before our troops are sent into battle," Paul continued. "One Republican member stated that the constitutional requirement that Congress declare war is an anachronism and should no longer be followed," while a Democratic member said that a declaration of war would be ‘frivolous.’ I don’t think most Americans believe our Constitution is outdated or frivolous, and they expect Congress to follow it."
"When Congress issued clear declarations of war against Japan and Germany during World War II, the nation was committed and victory was achieved," Paul concluded. "When Congress shirks its duty and avoids declaring war, as with Korea, and Vietnam, the nation is less committed and the goals are less clear. No lives should be lost in Iraq unless Congress expresses the clear will of the American people and votes yes or no on a declaration of war."
and Congress did sign, or they would have not even been involved in signing anything. It would have been another military action.
Well, this is a feeling he espoused both before and after... Either way, he voted against the resolution you are citing for this reason.
The Iraq War Resolution which was passed on October 10, 2002, Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.
The Iraq War Resolution which was passed on October 10, 2002, Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.
The resolution authorized the president to enforce the UN sanctions by means he deemed necessary. It didn't force his hand in any way. The UN insectors reported there were no WMDs. Our allies advised against war. CIA intelligence that didn't support Bush's contention about WMDs was ignored. Bush was truly the "decider" on this (or maybe it was Cheney) and the ensuing FUBAR will forever be known as his issue.
Just like Vietnam will always be seen as LBJ's war.
The Iraq War Resolution which was passed on October 10, 2002, Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.
You can quote Wikipedia all you want. It authorized the President to use military force IF NECESSARY...
You can call it a "War" all you'd like... Congress didn't "Declare War"...
Well, this is a feeling he espoused both before and after... Either way, he voted against the resolution you are citing for this reason.
It isn't a formal Declaration of War...
This is why...
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The planned war against Iraq without a Declaration of War is illegal.
Did you even scan over Public Law No: 107-243
Lets go back to the War Powers Act, that was signed after Vietnam
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