An open question to climate change deniers (Minnesota, companies, claim)
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I'm a recent convert to denial. For a long time I accepted global warming because the data presented to me indicated it was so. I seriously doubted it was man made because the claims just didn't jive with history.
Now that it seems even the data indicating warming was falsified in an apparent wide-spread conspiracy, I can say my view at the moment is based on not the science but the fact that the folks presenting the data to me have been lying through their teeth and manipulating the peer-review system to support their agenda. Since their credibility is in serious question, at this time I find myself more inclined to believe the scientists who deny because their only source of discredit so far has come from a group of folks with a substantial amount of evidence indicating they are liars.
Normally I don't subscribe to the practice of shooting the messenger but if the messenger is a known liar.......
If you can't win based on your fallacious argument with volcano change the subject! Or even better argue over semantics because the facts rip your argument down at every turn
Another expert. Hooked on Phonics and Wikipedia. God help us.
Just do some research and you'll find the truth. The info is out there but not getting thru, just like the media ignoring the e-mails confirming the lie.
There's ALOT of money at stake for alot of people. Money is the root of all evil!!
I certainly agree that most scientists are liberals. If the numbers were crunched I definitely agree that more liberals than conservatives would have degrees in Biology, Chemistry, Anthropology, Physics, Environmental Science, Toxicology, Biochemistry, Molecular Biology, Mathematics, Occupational Safety and Health, etc
So what is your point? Even assuming this is true? After all, we have already seen how the GW folks are so hard-core religious in their agenda they have to manipulate the figures and try and stifle (by any means necessary) the opposition. I tell ya...they are worse than any Southern Baptists I have ever seen..and I have lived around them all my life. Hell, I AM one of them, when it comes right down to it.
And...I will be the first to admit that I am not a "pure scientist." Not even close. There are so many things I know little to nothing about...and that includes all the pure sciences mentioned above.
BUT...you seem to be making the association that those who adopt a liberal vision of the world -- again, even if the coorelation exists -- and the fields you bring up -- gives it default credibilty.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
For one thing, common sense and wisdom makes fools -- so very often -- out of those who have the best "education" in the world.
I would say the first order of business would be to go after anybody who was pushing cap and trade and run them out of office and expose their corruption.
Yes and water vapor is also the largest greenhouse gas of them all trumping CO2 by many magnitudes, perhaps we should ban water?
It's very difficult for people to admit they were wrong about something that was so dear to them; it hurts. But it can also be very cathartic.
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You have some whacked out ideas buddy!
