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Old 11-26-2009, 04:40 PM
 
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But I support Obama. I don't have a Confederate flag but flying the flag some time in the future is not beyond me.

 
Old 11-26-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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There are pictures online of black people holding the Confederate flag. What's your explanation for that?
This is an argument some whites have made that has always bothered me. The whole "well he's black and he doesn't see a problem so therefore it is correct". Like us blacks all have a homogeneous mindset. If a white person came out and said that whites were all racist, couldn't cook, unathletic, blah blah blah someting tells me that all of a sudden that same logic wouldn't apply.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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I never said the CSA committed treason, because thats technically what the USA committed. Anyways, we'll never agree on the subject, so we'll leave it at that.
Good to talk to you again!
Fair enough, Steve. You are a worthy opponent, and I appreciate and respect it...even though we disagree!
 
Old 11-26-2009, 05:31 PM
 
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Hello TexasReb, nice to talk to you, before I go I must say I have used some of the examples in your arguments in the past in an informative speech about the flag I did at my college a few months back, and believe me they worked.

My opinion of the flag is as solid and similar as yours, but I see it also as that the flag has no *Universal* meaning, it's just the person(s) views behind it. Hence why you and I see it as pride in the south and it's history and others as hate and ignorance.
Thanks Desert Kid. You are correct. ANY symbol -- whether it is the Christian Cross, the Confederate Battle Flag, or the United States Flag...ad infinitum....means different things to different people.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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Isn't that flag a symbol of Hate and Opression? People: We have a Black President now! Thank God, I did not move to SE Arizona, with mentalities like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it is to some people, it is all about perception. And by your logic shouldn't we get rid of "Black Power" and African heritage flags for the shear fact they are not quite needed anymore because of said black president?

And you don't have to find that mentality just here in Arizona, you can find it in rural Maine or New Jersey or your beloved New York, it's an American phenomenon not a regional one.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 07:09 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Yes, it is to some people, it is all about perception. And by your logic shouldn't we get rid of "Black Power" and African heritage flags for the shear fact they are not quite needed anymore because of said black president?

And you don't have to find that mentality just here in Arizona, you can find it in rural Maine or New Jersey or your beloved New York, it's an American phenomenon not a regional one.
I would never fly one of those flags because I dont believe in racial bias period. Black or White.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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I actually live in former Confederate territory in AZ. I live well within the red line. I also had a good time conversing with SCV members here at a county fair, bought 1 flag and took several pamphlets. Nice folks.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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So you are saying that anyone that flies the flag couldn't have possibly voted for Obama, correct?

Should I also feel you are a racist if you have a shirt or bumper sticker with a black fist on it?

Guess the guy in this picture is a racist.

Wonder why a racist would vote for Obama?
OK so if I show up at the office party in full black panther garb should I not be viewed as racist
 
Old 11-26-2009, 07:23 PM
 
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I actually live in former Confederate territory in AZ. I live well within the red line. I also had a good time conversing with SCV members here at a county fair, bought 1 flag and took several pamphlets. Nice folks.
I live in former Confederate Territory too. Mesilla (the next town over) was the capital of the Confederate territory.
 
Old 11-26-2009, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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I live in former Confederate Territory too. Mesilla (the next town over) was the capital of the Confederate territory.
I knew that, what I didn't know is that there was an actual battle near Silver City between Confederates and Apaches in Pinos Altos.
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