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Old 11-30-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Ban Fox News?If there were no Fox then it would give carte blanche to Big Media to become even more biased than ever,with nothing but leftist opinion and propaganda put forth over the air.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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Ban Fox News?If there were no Fox then it would give carte blanche to Big Media to become even more biased than ever,with nothing but leftist opinion and propaganda put forth over the air.
Assert, assert, assert!
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If Fox news was banned the Daily Show would be a lot less funny. Keep Fox running.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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When a media has acknowledge that it lies to their viewers, it no longer has any form of credibility (not that it has much credibility to begin with). But I'll acknowledge that Fox news at least openly say they use censorship, unlike the other medias.

Obviously many folks can't dissect fact from fiction, there should be a mandate for ALL media to report news as truthfully and unbiased as possible, it's called journalism integrity, what the hell happen to that? Spare me the tripe about the 1st amendment, the freedom of press shouldn't mean the freedom to lie, deceit, and distort.
Well, first of all, you're confusing cable news networks with news networks that use public airwaves. While every journalistic establishment should aspire to report the undistorted facts, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc. are under less pressure to do so because they are not bound by the same obligations as ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. who, in exchange for profiting off the use of public airwaves, must provide for the "public good" in it's reporting. These days, the "public good" is more liberal than ever and certainly could be called biased, but nevertheless, it still has the obligation to uphold its end of the deal. They can and are held accountable as well.

With that being said, cable networks do in fact have a de facto license to report how they see fit. If that means distorting the truth to suit the needs of the viewership, so be it.

Seriously though. All cable networks do it, so please, get off your anti-Fox News high horse and call the kettle black for a change.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well, first of all, you're confusing cable news networks with news networks that use public airwaves. While every journalistic establishment should aspire to report the undistorted facts, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc. are under less pressure to do so because they are not bound by the same obligations as ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. who, in exchange for use of the public airwaves, must provide for the "public good" in exchange for use of public property to make a profit.

With that being said, cable networks do in fact have a de facto license to report how they see fit. If that means distorting the truth to suit the needs of the viewership, so be it.

They all do it, so please, get off your anti-Fox News high horse and call the kettle black for a change.
Exactly, I wish they'd just tell the story, but so much of their airtime is given to "opinion".

National Enquirer can get a channel if they wanted to as well, and no one can do anything about it.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:31 PM
 
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When a media has acknowledge that it lies to their viewers, it no longer has any form of credibility (not that it has much credibility to begin with). But I'll acknowledge that Fox news at least openly say they use censorship, unlike the other medias.

Obviously many folks can't dissect fact from fiction, there should be a mandate for ALL media to report news as truthfully and unbiased as possible, it's called journalism integrity, what the hell happen to that? Spare me the tripe about the 1st amendment, the freedom of press shouldn't mean the freedom to lie, deceit, and distort.
I love Faux News. Think about it. It is the best litmus test out there. If you want to find out if a person is moron just ask them where they get their news. If they say they only watch faux, you know you are not dealing with an intellectual giant. You don't have to waste anymore time with that person.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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When a media has acknowledge that it lies to their viewers, it no longer has any form of credibility (not that it has much credibility to begin with). But I'll acknowledge that Fox news at least openly say they use censorship, unlike the other medias.

Obviously many folks can't dissect fact from fiction, there should be a mandate for ALL media to report news as truthfully and unbiased as possible, it's called journalism integrity, what the hell happen to that? Spare me the tripe about the 1st amendment, the freedom of press shouldn't mean the freedom to lie, deceit, and distort.

I agree with all of the above but disagree with the statement "Fox News does not represent conservatives". Apparently, it does speak for conservatives and because they agree with the stupidity that is promoted by this network, they have alientated themselves and lost an election.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:38 PM
 
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I'm a conservative.

Oh really? Looking at your post history in just the last couple of days:
You're a gung ho pro-abortionist, pro-mullah, pro-Iranian nuke, and blame the US for everything (Bush and Obama).
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:57 PM
 
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Seriously though. All cable networks do it, so please, get off your anti-Fox News high horse and call the kettle black for a change.
Would it serve you better to say "there's nothing redeeming about US corporate news network?" I haven't singled out Fox in my postings, besides the thread title.

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I love Faux News. Think about it. It is the best litmus test out there. If you want to find out if a person is moron just ask them where they get their news. If they say they only watch faux, you know you are not dealing with an intellectual giant. You don't have to waste anymore time with that person.

I'd rather have people better informed (and this means both sides).

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Apparently, it does speak for conservatives and because they agree with the stupidity that is promoted by this network, they have alientated themselves and lost an election.
A TV network does not speak for an ideology, a TV network can preach their version of said ideology, but the weakness lies with the inability of viewers to understand and distinguish the concepts used. Example, Glenn Beck has called the Obama administration socialist, communist, and fascist, while Glenn Beck is correct on one of the terms he used, the other outlyer dilutes his credibility. If Mr. Beck could be more correct and less biased, that would be preferable.

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I'm a conservative.

Oh really? Looking at your post history in just the last couple of days:
You're a gung ho pro-abortionist, pro-mullah, pro-Iranian nuke, and blame the US for everything (Bush and Obama).
My personal belief is different from my take on the reality of many issues. I would like no better than to put a rose-colored glasses on and say abortion is distasteful, nobody should have nukes, and I wish US weren't to be blamed for everything. The reality presents a much different scenario, abortion is a right, some people have nukes, and US has been the cause of some problems in some parts of the world. Facing reality has nothing to do with politic leaning, but confronting the issue at hand in a non-partisan manner.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:03 PM
 
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When a media has acknowledge that it lies to their viewers, it no longer has any form of credibility (not that it has much credibility to begin with). But I'll acknowledge that Fox news at least openly say they use censorship, unlike the other medias.

Obviously many folks can't dissect fact from fiction, there should be a mandate for ALL media to report news as truthfully and unbiased as possible, it's called journalism integrity, what the hell happen to that? Spare me the tripe about the 1st amendment, the freedom of press shouldn't mean the freedom to lie, deceit, and distort.
Yes, it should be ran by the president and he will ok all information to which is evaluated as "true" and "unbiased". We can also have all forms of communication monitored by a special task force instated by the President which will insure that only the truth is heard. We can call them the SS or something and they will pull from ranks of a youth movement to which will gather and uphold the position of truth by reporting all those who do not conform to that which is the truth.

Wait a sec... I have seen this somewhere, it was in a history book... hmmm....
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