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The country of Uganda is considering a law that will apply the death penalty to people who engage in acts of homosexuality. Many Republican Christians in this country are in favour of these laws.
One part of the new law states that, not only does it apply to all acts of homosexuality in Uganda itself, whether committed by a foreigner or a citizen BUT the law also applies to ALL citizens of Uganda no matter WHERE they reside in the world. The law says they shall be EXTRADITED to Uganda to face a possible death sentence. So if 2 homosexuals have a rump romp here in the USA and one of them is from Uganda and the government of Uganda request we extradite that homosexual to face possible death, should the United States honour that request?
Hm... hopefully any liberal reading this sees the difference between the 'intolerance' in Uganda and the 'intolerance' in the USA.
And ... I'd say the 'intolerance' for gay marriage rights in the USA is not that bad and I'd guess that we won't see mass gay exodus from this country anytime soon.
Because no matter how they want to spin it, of ALL countries this one treats them the best. No, we won't grant them the right to marry, but we will respect their CHOICE better than anyone else in this world.
Because no matter how they want to spin it, of ALL countries this one treats them the best. No, we won't grant them the right to marry, but we will respect their CHOICE better than anyone else in this world.
I strongly disagree. It would take some incredible mental gymnastics to convince myself that the U.S. respects gays better than anyone else in the world. That just doesn't make sense.
And it's not a choice, so quit saying that it is - unless you don't mind sounding uneducated on the subject.
And who is this "we" you speak of? Five states allow same-sex marriage, and in both Maine and California, nearly half the population voted to keep it legal. Do you believe that nearly half the population of those states is gay?
This isn't an "us versus them" debate to me; maybe you see it that way, though. I think it's sad if you do.
But not to its preposterous premise. The fact that people are earnestly debating the merits of it, or the rest of your preposterous threads, is what has me scratching my head. But I will say it reinforces my sense of relief that Politics and Other Controversies has its own leper colony away from the rest of the forums.
Hm... hopefully any liberal reading this sees the difference between the 'intolerance' in Uganda and the 'intolerance' in the USA.
And ... I'd say the 'intolerance' for gay marriage rights in the USA is not that bad and I'd guess that we won't see mass gay exodus from this country anytime soon.
Because no matter how they want to spin it, of ALL countries this one treats them the best. No, we won't grant them the right to marry, but we will respect their CHOICE better than anyone else in this world.
I'm guessing you've never been to any of the Scandanavian countries.
I strongly disagree. It would take some incredible mental gymnastics to convince myself that the U.S. respects gays better than anyone else in the world. That just doesn't make sense.
And it's not a choice, so quit saying that it is - unless you don't mind sounding uneducated on the subject.
And who is this "we" you speak of? Five states allow same-sex marriage, and in both Maine and California, nearly half the population voted to keep it legal. Do you believe that nearly half the population of those states is gay?
This isn't an "us versus them" debate to me; maybe you see it that way, though. I think it's sad if you do.
It may or may not be a choice to have homosexual feelings, but it most certainly is a choice to act out on them. I may find a woman attractive, but I choose not to act out on it. Of course the big difference between the two is that I know infidelity and rape are wrong, but you don't believe gay sex is wrong.
It may or may not be a choice to have homosexual feelings, but it most certainly is a choice to act out on them. I may find a woman attractive, but I choose not to act out on it.
I believe BigV was saying that people choose to be gay. That's what I was addressing. Why you needed to make the point that people choose to act on their sexual interests, I'm not sure; you certainly were stating the obvious.
What is disconcerting (to put it nicely) is that you appear to be equating gay sex with infidelity and rape.
I'm guessing you've never been to any of the Scandanavian countries.
Please. He doesn't need to have visited a Scandinavian country to know how gays are treated there. He could read it about it. Hell - he could learn a little something about our neighbor to the north (Canada) and find out how gays are treated better there than they are here.
Even bigger than the marriage issue, the fact that our military can't handle openly gay soldiers is embarrassing. It makes us look very immature.
Even bigger than the marriage issue, the fact that our military can't handle openly gay soldiers is embarrassing. It makes us look very immature.
I have had the opportunity to speak with Marines (from Camp Pendleton) about their feelings about Gays serving (openly) in a combat zone. Frankly, I have never heard any of the men, or women, supporting gays serving in combat. I have heard that "perhaps" stateside, on a base where they are not so close quartered. But, in a war zone? Nope.
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