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Old 12-04-2009, 12:45 PM
 
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We are coming out of an ice age, people. Has nothing to do with human involvement. It is the natural evolution of our planet.

Before we moved in, Forest fires raged across the forests, without human help to put it out. The smoke, and heat generated was natural. There is less emissions from a car than from a fireplace or wood stove.
But what about 100,000,000 cars, many of which are heavy polluters? What about 1,000,000,000 cars worldwide? What about coal-burning plants? What about oil refineries? What about maquiladoras?

There are 6,000,000,000 people in this planet, most of whom use tons of polluting devices every single day while consuming fossil fuels and using electricity. How can anyone deny that we'd have an effect when our population has exploded at the same time our per-capita polluting went up exponentially?
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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Once you begin to call someone names like that, you lose the debate. Don't have anything better to say, Al Gore?

Neuling, keep up the great work. I am enjoying your posts.
I like how you lash out at the name calling your side does to Christians and conservatives. Yeah, you're real credible and honest aren't you? Plus it's ok to call GROUPS out, which I did, not the individual right? So move along, nothing to see here.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:46 PM
 
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Those people are so stupid. His movie was important, even if details may not have been correct. The point is he created awareness for our increasing problems. And whether they like it or not, we humans contribute to the problems of our planet, even if our contribution coincides with a cyclical warming phase. One must be quite retarded to think our emitting incredible amounts of gases won't have an impact on the atmosphere. So even people who don't want us to be guilty of anything so that they can continue ruining the world should notice that what we do is at least worsening the natural cycle.
Saying, ah, there have always been cycles like that, is short-sighted as extremes have always led to many people dying and suffering. So millions of people may die because of the current tendency, regardless of whether we humans caused it or only worsened it.
There are already islands off Australia where people are fighting the ocean inundating their land as we speak. They have asked Australia to be allowed to settle there and were rejected. I wonder how long we can maintain this attitude because basically we reject them for egoist reasons and watch them drowning. We might as well shoot them.

Apart from that, Gore did not deliberately lie, he relied largely on scientists and did what the thought was right. Those who do lie deliberately and even commit fraud are the conservatives helping industry and other lobbies.

Only the left would come up with something like this Oh yes El Gordo knew he was lying which is why he flat out refused to answer any questions and now he is hiding somewhere fully aware there are still enough sheep out there that will swallow any lie they are told.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:47 PM
 
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But what about 100,000,000 cars, many of which are heavy polluters? What about 1,000,000,000 cars worldwide? What about coal-burning plants? What about oil refineries? What about maquiladoras?

There are 6,000,000,000 people in this planet, most of whom use tons of polluting devices every single day while consuming fossil fuels and using electricity. How can anyone deny that we'd have an effect when our population has exploded at the same time our per-capita polluting went up exponentially?
The atmosphere absorbs almost all of it and it either gets recycled or let out into space along with other pollutants and dangerous elements such as radiation.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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But what about 100,000,000 cars, many of which are heavy polluters? What about 1,000,000,000 cars worldwide? What about coal-burning plants? What about oil refineries? What about maquiladoras?

There are 6,000,000,000 people in this planet, most of whom use tons of polluting devices every single day while consuming fossil fuels and using electricity. How can anyone deny that we'd have an effect when our population has exploded at the same time our per-capita polluting went up exponentially?
The facts that you state do not compute for some people. They think that stuff just magically appears and disappears from daily life. Many of them believe that the planet was created in six days. When you are up against that kind of stupidity and ignorance, it is better to ignore them and hope that when mankind is on the verge of extinction, their gene pool will be the ones to become obsolete.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:51 PM
 
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The atmosphere absorbs almost all of it and it either gets recycled or let out into space along with other pollutants and dangerous elements such as radiation.
Oh, so "the atmosphere" magically absorbs everything? Where did you find this out? Where's your link that proves this?

And again, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE MASSIVE LAYER OF SMOG THAT WE CAN SEE IN LOS ANGELES?
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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So can the same be said for Bush going into Iraq? His intentions were good, he wanted to help the people being killed under Saddam. Does he get a pass? Hmmmmmm??
No. Because his intentions weren't good.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Over There
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No. Because his intentions weren't good.

Who says? You!!

Unless you are a mind reader you have no clue the mans real intentions.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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The atmosphere absorbs almost all of it and it either gets recycled or let out into space along with other pollutants and dangerous elements such as radiation.


Is that why Chernobyl still vibrates professor?

SHEEP in Scotland still carry traces of radiation from Chernobyl – over 20 years since the catastrophic explosion.

Sheep in Scotland still contain Chernobyl radiation « Deadline Press & Picture Agency

http://www.belarusguide.com/chernobyl1/cyauh.html
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Hummm...a "group" of conservatives, who disavow global warming is even happening, want to strip the award. Not the committee, not an independent body of producers, not a group of learned peers...2 people.

Just 2 people, neither of which has really done anything but be a member and pay their dues.

I can pay money and be a member, do I get to strip people of their awards too?
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