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Old 10-27-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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Every time this guy talks, it's a sales pitch on why government spending should be dramatically increased.



One month it's healthcare, then infrastructure, then clean energy. Borrowing money like crazy.

This left wing radical with a marxist philosophy is suckering alot of people.
A thread from 2009 ..... think about that. Obama has been singing exactly the same tune since 2009 - actually from even before 2009. He is like a broken record - he can't even get his own party to agree with him and bring Legislation to the floor. It's all Populist babble for the uninformed masses that tend to forget that all he does is "pivot" from one populist position to another in his never ending Campaign Speeches. They lap it up like starving little puppies. How sad is that?

Nothing new, nothing done ...... just same old babble.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So you supported a bill which cost millions of people to lose their policies.. Sounds like you want to tear down the house to fix the door to me..

In fact we TOLD YOU this was going to happen, we weret old to sit down, shut up, and that we were wrong.. Clearly we werent..

you spinning this fact is completely histerical..
So you would prefer going back to the era of people being denied due to pre-existing conditions, children not being able to stay on their parents' healthcare until they are 26, and healthcare to be affordable for those who don't have healthcare.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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So you would prefer going back to the era of people being denied due to pre-existing conditions, children not being able to stay on their parents' healthcare until they are 26, and healthcare to be affordable for those who don't have healthcare.
Once again you are making things up that others didnt say, in order to argue with them.

Lets recap..

MILLIONS ARE LOSING THEIR INSURANCE, hours are being cut. your reply, 26 year old adults can stay on their parents policies..

Hows that help if their polices are CANCELLED or their working less hours and cant buy it? How the hell does your reply relate to what I said? Are you still trying to find the list of Republicans that voted to make 30 hours a week full time?

Try again..
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So if NOT ONE Republican voted for it, then why didnt the Democrats vote on the un "compromised" bill? You clearly didnt need their support to pass it, did you?

Oh thats right.. because there was NO COMPROMISE.. you're just lying again..
Oh I didn't know we passed single payer option, which was originally in ACA until the Democrats tried to compromise. Also remember the fines for employers if the violate ACA? Yep, that was a compromise too, it was originally meant to be much higher.

Don't worry, I don't expect you to remember that, you clearly can't remember what you said in this thread.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Once again you are making things up that others didnt say, in order to argue with them.

Lets recap..

MILLIONS ARE LOSING THEIR INSURANCE, hours are being cut. your reply, 26 year old adults can stay on their parents policies..

Hows that help if their polices are CANCELLED or their working less hours and cant buy it? How the hell does your reply relate to what I said? Are you still trying to find the list of Republicans that voted to make 30 hours a week full time?

Try again..
You're right, the fine should be much, much higher for employers who do this. Shame the Republicans fought against this fine until it was nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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Oh I didn't know we passed single payer option, which was originally in ACA until the Democrats tried to compromise. Also remember the fines for employers if the violate ACA? Yep, that was a compromise too, it was originally meant to be much higher.

Don't worry, I don't expect you to remember that, you clearly can't remember what you said in this thread.
Once again you arent addressign what was said, you are only changing the subject and replying with some random obscure comment that doesnt relate to the conversation taking place.

If NOT ONE Republican voted for the bill, then why didnt the Democrats vote on the original bill which was the "uncompromised" plan?

And those fines, meant to be much higher, yeah.. thats the ticket, encourage them to cut even MORE employees and hours.. Nothign can go wrong there..

Are you able to address what I'm saying, or is it difficult for you to actually stay focused and admit you supported a plan destined for failure from day 1...
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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You're right, the fine should be much, much higher for employers who do this. Shame the Republicans fought against this fine until it was nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
There is no fine for cutting employees hours, there are only fines for keeping them over 30 hours a week.. Your reply, yeah, we should fine employers even higher for keepign full time employees..

Are you really that dumb?

btw, why wont you address that MILLIONS are losing their policies.. you just keep changing the subject and not able to stay focused on the discussion. Like I said, medication is available for that..
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Once again you arent addressign what was said, you are only changing the subject and replying with some random obscure comment that doesnt relate to the conversation taking place.

If NOT ONE Republican voted for the bill, then why didnt the Democrats vote on the original bill which was the "uncompromised" plan?

And those fines, meant to be much higher, yeah.. thats the ticket, encourage them to cut even MORE employees and hours.. Nothign can go wrong there..

Are you able to address what I'm saying, or is it difficult for you to actually stay focused and admit you supported a plan destined for failure from day 1...
They should have gone with the original plan.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There is no fine for cutting employees hours, there are only fines for keeping them over 30 hours a week.. Your reply, yeah, we should fine employers even higher for keepign full time employees..

Are you really that dumb?

btw, why wont you address that MILLIONS are losing their policies.. you just keep changing the subject and not able to stay focused on the discussion. Like I said, medication is available for that..
I have already addressed that in this forum, you are welcome to search for previous posts for that answer.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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every time this guy talks, it's a sales pitch on why government spending should be dramatically increased.



One month it's healthcare, then infrastructure, then clean energy. Borrowing money like crazy.

This left wing radical with a marxist philosophy is suckering alot of people.
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