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Old 12-04-2009, 10:05 PM
 
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I omitted the rest of your post to illustrate a point. The points you are making in your last paragraph are being told word by word in the Bible.

In my view, we have moved away from religion to the point where marriage and family aren't as important to a lot of people anymore. There is a lack of morals, divorce is rampant, child abuse, rape, violence and the rest. Hollywood has swage pipes right into out living rooms, and so forth. For the last few decades all we see is bad examples of human behavior, in all fronts: TV, movies, radio, the games children play on their game boxes, written from (books, magazines and such)...
Right. But you think it is due to the lack of God. I believe it is because of morals decline due to family not caring and divorce and such.

And sure, the Bible says it. My issue with the Bible is that it is not a factual source. The Bible goes over the BELIEFS of Christianity. It is not a universal book of facts. You cannot argue that my laptops keyboard is black with white letters. But you can argue any religious holy book.

Another issue I have with the Bible as of late is that it is so sexist. As a woman, it really bothers me.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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Well, all depends on how you see it. The Bible speaks against greed. While our economy goes down the drain, greedy investors and leaders are packing their coffers with more treasures. For example, the bailouts allowed for a lot of people to give themselves bonuses, more pork in Congress, more money to the largest banks, and the same for some of the investing companies that control the market. Even Al Gore made a few millions.
So you're saying nothing bad happened before ..2002??? 1999??


When was the world perfect?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:08 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Nice duck out!!!

However, it's YOU and SARAH who are saying America should listen to god.......not me.....so it's NOT a "real" question at all.


C'mon, what has he told you.....???Let us in on the big secret....
I cannot speak for Sarah Palin but I strive to seek God out for myself and for my nation but it is really challenging for God to work when so many folks are telling Him that they don't want Him involved. God is a gentleman and will not force Himself on those who do not want Him around. Where God is absent, chaos ensues.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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That is Faith.
I can not give you faith. It lies within your own soul. All I can do is pray.
I know better than to come to these boards. It just saddens me so much.
I would LOVE to give what I have to everyone.
Just ask him sincerely and HE will give!
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:11 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Please please give me some proof that a god exists.


Please please YOU give SOME thought to the fact that you have a belief with no proof.

Please please show proof of what happens after death.
Do you honestly want to gamble with your soul waiting for that "proof"?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:12 PM
 
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I cannot speak for Sarah Palin but I strive to seek God out for myself and for my nation but it is really challenging for God to work when so many folks are telling Him that they don't want Him involved. God is a gentleman and will not force Himself on those who do not want Him around. Where God is absent, chaos ensues.
So you don't have a clue what he has to say about the economy...I thought so.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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So you don't have a clue what he has to say about the economy...I thought so.
With all due respect,

Chatteress has said that she cannot speak for God as no one knows what God thinks except Himself.

You don't believe in God and neither do I but there are better ways of going about this.

Religions revolved around having faith in God and serving Him. I would not want to risk speaking for Him either if I was a believer.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:15 PM
 
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Do you honestly want to gamble with your soul waiting for that "proof"?
I'm not gambling with anything...what is , is ..and what will be , will be...and mumbling prayers to the air won't change that.


But it sounds like the ONLY reason you behave is because of your fear of what MAY happen to you after death.....I behave because I believe it's the right thing to do....you live in fear ....what a rotten thing for your god to do to you....
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:16 PM
 
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Do you honestly want to gamble with your soul waiting for that "proof"?
Yes. I'll take my chances.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:18 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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With all due respect,

Chatteress has said that she cannot speak for God as no one knows what God thinks except Himself.

You don't believe in God and neither do I but there are better ways of going about this.

Religions revolved around having faith in God and serving Him. I would not want to risk speaking for Him either if I was a believer.
Thank you Lib.
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