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What this does show is that there is at least one temperature station where the trend has been artificially increased to give a false warming where the raw data shows cooling. In addition, the average raw data for Northern Australia is quite different from the adjusted, so there must be a number of … mmm … let me say “interesting” adjustments in Northern Australia other than just Darwin.
And with the Latin saying “Falsus in unum, falsus in omis” (false in one, false in all) as our guide, until all of the station “adjustments” are examined, adjustments of CRU, GHCN, and GISS alike, we can’t trust anyone using homogenized numbers.
Let me just make sure then.... If all this "Global Warming" stuff is a bunch of hooey, then it must be that the melting point of ice has changed?
Or are they doctoring that too and we aren't really losing any ice, or glaciers or anything? The Himalayas are imagining greater glacial melts than usual and Antarctic ice shelves are breaking off because of an over-zealous band of rogue penguins pecked too hard on the wrong spot and such?
Let me just make sure then.... If all this "Global Warming" stuff is a bunch of hooey, then it must be that the melting point of ice has changed?
Or are they doctoring that too and we aren't really losing any ice, or glaciers or anything? The Himalayas are imagining greater glacial melts than usual and Antarctic ice shelves are breaking off because of an over-zealous band of rogue penguins pecked too hard on the wrong spot and such?
If it snows in early December in Houston does that mean global warming is not occurring? Obviously not because Houston is not the globe. Can't the same argument be made in reverse? Just because it may be warmer in the Antarctic does not make the warming "global."
And as to whether the Himalayas are losing more ice than usual is that really true? In the WSJ yesterday Bjorn Lomborg, the Danish climatologist (and global warming skeptic) addresses the claims that Mt Kilaminjaro has lost most of its snow because of global warming. He cites a 1984 study that demonstrated that the snows on the mountain have been receding since 1890 and that by 1936, when Hemingway published his "The Snows of Kilaminjaro," the mountain had lost more than half its surface ice area in the previous 56 years--more than it has lost in the 70 years since. But that hasn't stopped global warming alarmists from attributing the melting to human activity. Are we seeing the same agenda-driven hysteria at work in the Himalayas? Wouldn't you want to know the answer to that question?
Let me just make sure then.... If all this "Global Warming" stuff is a bunch of hooey, then it must be that the melting point of ice has changed?
Or are they doctoring that too and we aren't really losing any ice, or glaciers or anything? The Himalayas are imagining greater glacial melts than usual and Antarctic ice shelves are breaking off because of an over-zealous band of rogue penguins pecked too hard on the wrong spot and such?
Rhett, stop listening to reporters who are telling their own story and start looking at the facts.
the Himalayas are not losing ice mass, they are gaining. The Antarctic ice shelf is at its highest measurment since satalites started looking at it in the 1970s MORE ICE bro MORE not less.
the only ice melt has been ocean ice in the Arctic Sea and in the last 2 years, there has been a massive recovery.
You guys are funny. You think weather patterns don't change ? You think one hot summer is the proof of global warming or one early snowstorm is proof of global cooling ?
How did the Ice Age happen ? What about the age of dinosaurs ?
The earth will change and no tax on earth can stop it. We need to learn to adapt to the subtle changes over time..not sign treaties in hopes of altering what Mother Nature is doing.
I think chemical pollution is a bigger threat to mankind if you ask me.
China river:
Rhett, stop listening to reporters who are telling their own story and start looking at the facts.
the Himalayas are not losing ice mass, they are gaining. The Antarctic ice shelf is at its highest measurment since satalites started looking at it in the 1970s MORE ICE bro MORE not less.
the only ice melt has been ocean ice in the Arctic Sea and in the last 2 years, there has been a massive recovery.
SCIENCE DUDE SCIENCE.
LOL!!! Well since I know that YOU aren't there, nor are you doing the measurements yourself, please...
1) Show me YOUR science that says any of what you claim here.
2) Since I'm sure you know I can find probably 100 articles and scientists claiming the opposite of what you say here for every one that you find, tell me why yours must be the right one?
Why is MY science biased and YOUR science the truth?
Kind of an Occam's Razor thing to me "DUDE". What's more probable?
1) That thousands of scientists from around the world who make $250K or less are trying to fool the world so that we'll fund continuing research on this "problem" and continue to listen to them.
OR
2) That big oil, coal and fossil fuel companies that rake in multi-TRILLIONS of dollars world-wide thanks to continuing use and exploration of the fossil fuels THEY PROVIDE have a few scientists and politicians in their pockets and are trying to get the world's population to take their collective eye off the ball regarding global warming because a shift away from fossil fuels will mark an end to the gravy train of their industry?
I think chemical pollution is a bigger threat to mankind if you ask me.
China river:
Dear lord yes.... I don't disagree....
Some of this goes hand in hand though. The MOST contaminated watersheds in the US are coming out of the Appalachians for instance... Yes, those pristine mountain streams are toxic....
Why?
Waste from Coal Mining primarily.
Seems to me we could kill two birds with one in some places by HEAVILY regulating strip mining.
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