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The real choice came for her to NOTspread her legs in the first place. How about that for "planning ahead"?
What about men not spreading their seed. Equal responsibility here. If you think it was the woman's responsibility to not spread her legs in the first place, then you are admitting that a subsequent pregnancy is her responsibility too, right? You can't have it both ways.
I'm sorry, but you are dead wrong! And I am actually just sick of hearing this tired old excuse. Especially if we are talking about a married couple here. A marriage is a union of two people into one, all choices and decisions are from there on out supposed to be made based on the feelings of both parties, not just the womans. All you have is this insane idea that because the woman carries the child, all choices involving that child are up to her. Problem is, she gave up complete ownership of her body when she willingly performed the act required for reproduction. Having done so, she has given another lifeform permission to share her body for the 10 month gestation period required. You have forfeit your right to complete ownership once you have made decisions that bring forth life. Not to mention the father's part in this. A man has just as much right to a say in wether or not his child lives or dies as the woman does, especially in a committed marital relationship. It is half his child! It is not just the woman's child!
Tell you what though, if this is your absolute opinion on the issue, which it obviously is looking at the numerous posts you have submitted to this effect, can I expect you to pass the same power on to the men in the relationships, regardless of the outcome. Because that is what you expect for the women. If you support the man's right to walk away if he so chooses, from either situation, then I would support your opinion. Men and women are equal, the women's movement did not come with extra rights for women. Equality is supposed to be paramount in law. So if you support the women's absolute right to control over this situation, then you should support the male's right to absolute control of his situation as well. So if he chooses to walk out on his pregnant girlfriend, that should be perfectly fine. And she will be left with that absolute power you seem to cherish, which will allow her to either keep the child or abort the child. You say it's a female's choice, regardless of man's opinion. Then support the man's right to his freedom of choice, with no strings attached. If you can't do that, then you are a hypocrit, and your opinion to me is null and void.
Men and women will not be equal with regards to pregnancy decisions until men are able to physically share the total mind/body commitment that is the 10 month gestation period. Biology has determined that there are, indeed, "extra rights" with regards to pregnancy for women and with those rights comes the "absolute power" to choose whether or not to continue the pregnancy.
Men and women will not be equal with regards to pregnancy decisions until men are able to physically share the total mind/body commitment that is the 10 month gestation period. Biology has determined that there are, indeed, "extra rights" with regards to pregnancy for women and with those rights comes the "absolute power" to choose whether or not to continue the pregnancy.
Pretty much this.
Only when men can totally bear the burden of the child for 9 months and go through the pain of childbirth will we have an equal say n what a woman does with her uterus.
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Would you support her getting an abortion if she decided she wanted one (yes, it's your baby)?
It is HER body and she can make the decision whether she wishes to use it to hatch a fetus or not. It is not her husband's- or anybody else s business.
Wow. I have to say I am truly impressed with the REAL MEN on this thread. KevK, Ray, Langlen....sorry if I missed a few other users. I cannot tell if you are a male or not.
Wow. I have to say I am truly impressed with the REAL MEN on this thread. KevK, Ray, Langlen....sorry if I missed a few other users. I cannot tell if you are a male or not.
I would be more than happy to support her decision on getting an abortion. Its to bad in than American men can't decide for them. Having no kids is very important to me anyway.
Last edited by West of Encino; 12-08-2009 at 10:48 PM..
I would not support any woman in getting an abortion so not a hard decision for me. If she never wants kids she should get her doctor to fix that situation permanently. Not a good plan but better than abortion.
If the man wants children and she doesn't then he has a decision to make---divorce or have no children. Hard decision but I can't see what else he can do.
If you read any other threads on this topic and I know that you have, you will note that it's extremely difficult for a woman to have a tubal ligation without having 3 kids and being over 40.
Men don't seem to trust women making that decision for herself.
I had mine done in a foreign hospital because no one I saw in the US was willing.
Why is it a hard decision?
If he didn't talk about it before it's a problem of his own making.
I would be more than happy to support her decision on getting an abortion. Its to bad in than American men can't decide for them.
Oh, but they can.
Ever see a woman whose partner kicked her in the stomach until she miscarried, and sometimes died?
Ever see what other men do to their spouses when they hear that the woman is pregnant?
If they don't want kids, get sterilized. It's an easy procedure for a male.
Last edited by chielgirl; 12-08-2009 at 10:58 PM..
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