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Old 12-08-2009, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Does anyone NOT think that the release of this supporting "propaganda" right at this time wasn't orchestrated to generate support for the Copenhagen meeting?
Lots of progs don't understand that, but someday the light will come on in their little heads.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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This whole "stolen email" kerfluffle was orchestrated by Tiger Woods' management to keep him off the front page.

Yuppers.
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:43 PM
 
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I'm surprised that the degredation of our environment doesn't concern you. You must be really old and/or ready to die.

But you also forgot to list the only real nonsense being spewed this week: the stolen emails.
Degradation of our environment....................................... .............................
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Old 12-12-2009, 05:49 AM
 
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Its nice timing as a severe winter storm comes barreling across the country and freak snows hit almost always warm cities. But without scientific data, even falsified scientific data, to back up their political agendas, the global warmers are sounding more and more shrill and panicky. How long until they go from being argued with to being ridiculed and then just ignored? Its already started.
Like this guy??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIl2gdDtbCg
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Opps, another I missed putting back on ignore.
Don't put posters like this on ignore please. You need to know how the blind GW hacks think. You ask me why? Well, because maybe it is educational and may help prepare you (us) to be ready for the next politicized BS science they throw out, in advance. We may be able to stop the next piece of garbage science before they have got so involved $$$$ wise. You know, when they can't afford to admit the lies, because they will be bankrupted if the truth comes out.

You do realize that the next logical step for these Bozos is to adopt the one child policy of the Chinese government. Don't laugh, I have already heard one person has called for the people in Copengotyou to seriously consider that to be the next goal.

Mark my words it will be coming and if you don't watch out it will be here sooner than you think. Of course it will be subtle and not in your face like China. It will start with tax incentive to only have 1 child and evolve into a punishment through additional taxes for having too many children. Heck, I will even bet some of the left loon will in answering my post actually speak about the proposal not being so bad.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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dubai isn't an oil "supplier". they are the oil poor country of the mideast, as they are structured comparable to the las vegas of the UAE.
Funny, ignorance is bliss I guess. Maybe they got confused with Abu Dhabi

Dubai
Dubai’s oil reserves have reduced over the past decade and are now expected to be exhausted within 20 years. The main fields are offshore: Fateh, Southwest Fateh and two smaller fields, Falah and Rashid. The only onshore deposit is the Margham field. Dubai Petroleum Company (DPC) is the main operator. Dubai has a 2 per cent share of the UAE's gas reserves. Dubai’s Margham gas/condensate field can deliver up to 140 mn cfd for domestic use and offshore fields can provide another 100 mn cfd. Sharjah also supplies Dubai with 430 mn cfd through a pipeline installed in 1992. The state-owned Dubai Natural Gas Company (DUGAS) is responsible for processing natural gas produced in Dubai’s offshore oil fields as well as the gas piped from Sharjah

Abu Dhabi
Abu Dhabi is by far the biggest oil producer in the UAE, controlling more than 85 percent of the UAE’s total oil output capacity and over 90 percent of its crude reserves. Principal offshore oil fields are Umm Shaif, Lower Zakum, Upper Zakum, Al Bunduq and Abu al-Bukhoosh. The main onshore fields are Asab, Bab, Bu Hasa, Sahil and Shah. Almost 92 per cent of the country's gas reserves are also located in Abu Dhabi and the Khuff reservoir beneath the oil fields of Umm Shaif and Abu al-Bukhoosh ranks among the largest single gas reservoirs in the worldAbu Dhabi National Oil Company Oil companies from Japan, France, Britain and other countries own up to 40 percent of the energy sector in Abu Dhabi, the only Gulf oil producer to have retained foreign partners on a production-sharing basis.[/color][/b] More than half of Abu Dhabi’s oil production is generated by the Abu Dhabi Company for Onshore Operations (ADCO), one of the 10 largest oil companies worldwide and the largest crude oil producer in the southern Arabian Gulf. The second main producer is Abu Dhabi Marine Operating Company (ADMA-OPCO). The output of oil and gas from ADMA-OPCO fields is transported to its center of operations on Das Island for processing, storage and export. Both ADCO and ADMA-OPCO are part of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) group of companies. ADNOC, established in 1971, is a fully owned government company controlled and supervised by the Supreme Petroleum Council (SPC), which is responsible for formulating Abu Dhabi petroleum policy and overseeing the emirate’s oil and gas operations and related industry
UAE Oil and Gas
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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old news.

more recent news (2005):

THE city state of Dubai has little oil, but oil is making it rich as a growing financial and trading hub for the Gulf and Africa.
Less than 5 per cent of Dubai’s economy is based on hydrocarbons. Moreover, oil revenues are expected to become a statistical blip by 2010, by which time the al-Maktoum family, which rules Dubai, hopes that the emirate will have matured into a Middle Eastern Singapore, providing financial, leisure and logistical services to the Gulf and Africa.

Dubai accounts for about a quarter of the $103 billion (£59 billion) economy of the United Arab Emirates. It is dwarfed by Abu Dhabi’s oil, but nonetheless is expanding at a frantic pace, its GDP increasing 13 per cent last year. Retailing and real estate are the largest sectors of the economy.

Dubai has no oil, but oil money is making it rich - Times Online
Or even better,

Funny, ignorance is bliss I guess. Maybe they got confused with Abu Dhabi

Dubai
Dubai’s oil reserves have reduced over the past decade and are now expected to be exhausted within 20 years. The main fields are offshore: Fateh, Southwest Fateh and two smaller fields, Falah and Rashid. The only onshore deposit is the Margham field. Dubai Petroleum Company (DPC) is the main operator. Dubai has a 2 per cent share of the UAE's gas reserves. Dubai’s Margham gas/condensate field can deliver up to 140 mn cfd for domestic use and offshore fields can provide another 100 mn cfd. Sharjah also supplies Dubai with 430 mn cfd through a pipeline installed in 1992. The state-owned Dubai Natural Gas Company (DUGAS) is responsible for processing natural gas produced in Dubai’s offshore oil fields as well as the gas piped from Sharjah


Abu Dhabi
Abu Dhabi is by far the biggest oil producer in the UAE, controlling more than 85 percent of the UAE’s total oil output capacity and over 90 percent of its crude reserves. Principal offshore oil fields are Umm Shaif, Lower Zakum, Upper Zakum, Al Bunduq and Abu al-Bukhoosh. The main onshore fields are Asab, Bab, Bu Hasa, Sahil and Shah. Almost 92 per cent of the country's gas reserves are also located in Abu Dhabi and the Khuff reservoir beneath the oil fields of Umm Shaif and Abu al-Bukhoosh ranks among the largest single gas reservoirs in the world.

Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC)
Oil companies from Japan, France, Britain and other countries own up to 40 percent of the energy sector in Abu Dhabi, the only Gulf oil producer to have retained foreign partners on a production-sharing basis. More than half of Abu Dhabi’s oil production is generated by the Abu Dhabi Company for Onshore Operations (ADCO), one of the 10 largest oil companies worldwide and the largest crude oil producer in the southern Arabian Gulf. The second main producer is Abu Dhabi Marine Operating Company (ADMA-OPCO). The output of oil and gas from ADMA-OPCO fields is transported to its center of operations on Das Island for processing, storage and export. Both ADCO and ADMA-OPCO are part of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) group of companies. ADNOC, established in 1971, is a fully owned government company controlled and supervised by the Supreme Petroleum Council (SPC), which is responsible for formulating Abu Dhabi petroleum policy and overseeing the emirate’s oil and gas operations and related industry.

UAE Oil and Gas
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:37 AM
 
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Stolen e-mails, hell. They were freed through the use of the British form of what we call freedom of information act. Before this is over that university will get a butt kicking which they sure earned by the destruction of those records that were requested. The real propaganda here is the part about stolen e-mails.
Aye, them being claimed stolen is a rater loose accusation as well and the evidence that they were linked is a more reasonable argument.

Here is a good network analysis of the claim of them being "stolen" which points out several key issues that do not support it as a hack and leans more to it being a leak.

Comprehensive network analysis shows Climategate likely to be a leak « Watts Up With That?
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Watch..once Copenhagen is over the MSM will be back to "lack of health insurance is killing Americans. Healthcare reform must pass now".

Sway the masses for the crisis of the week.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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Don't put posters like this on ignore please. You need to know how the blind GW hacks think. You ask me why? Well, because maybe it is educational and may help prepare you (us) to be ready for the next politicized BS science they throw out, in advance. We may be able to stop the next piece of garbage science before they have got so involved $$$$ wise. You know, when they can't afford to admit the lies, because they will be bankrupted if the truth comes out.

You do realize that the next logical step for these Bozos is to adopt the one child policy of the Chinese government. Don't laugh, I have already heard one person has called for the people in Copengotyou to seriously consider that to be the next goal.

Mark my words it will be coming and if you don't watch out it will be here sooner than you think. Of course it will be subtle and not in your face like China. It will start with tax incentive to only have 1 child and evolve into a punishment through additional taxes for having too many children. Heck, I will even bet some of the left loon will in answering my post actually speak about the proposal not being so bad.
Ive discussed with them at length before this issue even came up. Many of them have been showing the exact same approach to the discussions for over a year now. I pulled them off ignore to see how they would respond, no change.

They want to draw you in to banter with them, it makes them look like they have some credibility in the claim. They do not. They are here to smear and run evasive arguments in hopes that "volume" will some how account for lack of content (look at the number of responses from some of them, it is often 3-5 times even the highest number of responses in the thread and the responses aren't anything but smears).

Only a fool argues with fools. So, they go on ignore and those who are willing to discuss without resorting to ignorant fallacious tactics will receive responses. The rest are simply dunces that sit in the corner while the rest continues with the debate in class. Pay them no attention.
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