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Old 01-27-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Translation: Please do the work for me...after all, I am a federal employee.
Sure, I don't mind doing your work at all, and I'm a retired federal employee ;-):


Starting with 1969 as a base of 100, and counting all raises through January 2010, a comparison of the federal employee pay with the private sector discloses the following:


Federal Pay current index value - 528.0

Private Sector current index value - 732.3

Cost of Living index - 577.0


So, federal pay increases have significantly trailed the private sector over the past 40+ years, and even trailed the increases to the cost of living index



http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/94-971_20100120.pdf
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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These ARE the fat years for federal employees!
What are you talking about???

Federal workers have never been UNDERPAID.
oh bs

most federal WORKERS (gs7-12) are well UNDERPAID

the only the EXECUTIVE levels are making the bucks
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: North America
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oh bs

most federal WORKERS (gs7-12) are well UNDERPAID

the only the EXECUTIVE levels are making the bucks
You forgot to add in the locality adju$tment$...and they are NOT only for executives.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:08 AM
 
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Yea, it is wonderful.

What's the problem here? You didn't get a raise so others shouldn't either?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by NewToCA View Post
Sure, I don't mind doing your work at all, and I'm a retired federal employee ;-):


Starting with 1969 as a base of 100, and counting all raises through January 2010, a comparison of the federal employee pay with the private sector discloses the following:


Federal Pay current index value - 528.0

Private Sector current index value - 732.3

Cost of Living index - 577.0


So, federal pay increases have significantly trailed the private sector over the past 40+ years, and even trailed the increases to the cost of living index



http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/94-971_20100120.pdf
What about adding in relative unemployment rates in the public and private sectors.

In other words, when unemployment skyrocketed in the unprotected class vs. the steady rise in employment in the sheltered public sector the relative income per person changes dramatically.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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What about adding in relative unemployment rates in the public and private sectors.

In other words, when unemployment skyrocketed in the unprotected class vs. the steady rise in employment in the sheltered public sector the relative income per person changes dramatically.
In other words: having a secure job is bad and we need to get rid of it because MY job isn't secure.

Gotcha.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Enough to overcome a 200+ index advantage in private employment?

I've seen Bureau of Labor Statistics gross monthly employment data indicating that the number of folks working has held steady the past decade or so, while unemployment increased. Could be due to the overall population increase, that would be one explanation of the variance between steady employment and some growing unemployment.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You forgot to add in the locality adju$tment$...and they are NOT only for executives.
no I didnot forget locality

the fat is even with locality the average worker gs7-11 makes LESS than his counterpart in the civilian world

example :

Staff training coordinator aka Staff operations and trainging specialist aka training analyst:

for the federal government a gs9(step1) to gs11(step10(20 years on the job)) pays 47k-74k...and that INCLUDES locality.... https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/307852000

in the civilian world the average salary is 63k with a range 53k to 87k
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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A private industry nurse is an impossible concept, right?
What does your snarky question have to do with the topic?
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: NC
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Private sector here. In 2011 I made more than double what I did in 2010. In 2012 I should make another 30% more than I did in 2011.
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