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View Poll Results: Where would you consider yourself on the political spectrum?
Right (conservative) and Libertarian (small government) 27 38.03%
Left (liberal) and Libertarian (small government) 19 26.76%
Right (conservative) and Statist (big governement) 3 4.23%
Left (liberal) and Statist (big government) 10 14.08%
Completely Centrist 9 12.68%
Unsure 3 4.23%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-14-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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Yes , there are no choices for "moderates" of any persuasion; all of these choices are "black and white", and no shades of gray..

Centrist.
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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But what if one is quite sure they are none of the above? Wouldn't "Unsure" be misleading?

Polls are always skewed anyway.

You said "independent" which is a partisan affiliation (or lack thereof) presumably in U.S. politics, of you're not sure how that would map to the above, then you can pick "unsure."
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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I consider myself ...
  • A Centrist ...
  • that leans Liberal on many social issues ...
  • leans Conservative on a few others ...
  • leans Libertarian in some regards to scope of government ...
  • and leans Statist in other regards to scope of government - as in government run single-payer health insurance.
Hope that helps.
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Old 12-14-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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Centrist.
Not what I had in mind; there could have been categories like "social liberal, fiscally conservative" (ie, NE GOP) or like "socially conservative, fiscally liberal "( ie, UAW, etc), etc. It could have been more representative without adding an excesive number of choices..
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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Not what I had in mind; there could have been categories like "social liberal, fiscally conservative" (ie, NE GOP) or like "socially conservative, fiscally liberal "( ie, UAW, etc), etc. It could have been more representative without adding an excesive number of choices..

Well, that would have been based heavily on U.S. political models rather than looking at political theory universally.

Actually, on this chart, the U.S. would usually map somewhere in the "centrist" quadrant with incremental degrees of left vs. right, statist vs. libertarian.

To look at historic extremes -- these are indeed the extremes, I think:
USSR (1917-1991): far left, heavily statist
Anarcho-syndicalist movement in Spain prior to and during its 1936-39 civil war (overall about 1921-1939): Far left, heavily libertarian
Nationalist Spain (1936-1975): far right, heavily statist
The Confederate States of America (1861-1865): far right, heavily libertarian
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:36 AM
 
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Well, that would have been based heavily on U.S. political models rather than looking at political theory universally.

Actually, on this chart, the U.S. would usually map somewhere in the "centrist" quadrant with incremental degrees of left vs. right, statist vs. libertarian.

To look at historic extremes -- these are indeed the extremes, I think:
USSR (1917-1991): far left, heavily statist
Anarcho-syndicalist movement in Spain prior to and during its 1936-39 civil war (overall about 1921-1939): Far left, heavily libertarian
Nationalist Spain (1936-1975): far right, heavily statist
The Confederate States of America (1861-1865): far right, heavily libertarian
This is actually very interesting. Although National Socialist Germany would probably edge out Franco's Spain in its category. Franco was really a conservative authoritarian. The Falange militias fought for Fascism in Spain, but it never really achieved societal revolution in the way it did in Italy and Germany. Franco's government did practice corporatism, to my knowledge, which is a very underrated economic philosophy.

I would think most people would disagree with your designation of the C.S.A., but I actually agree, and commend you for pointing that out. The C.S.A. was extremely conservative, but essentially born from libertarian ideals and the value of state's rights.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:48 AM
 
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This is actually very interesting. Although National Socialist Germany would probably edge out Franco's Spain in its category. Franco was really a conservative authoritarian. The Falange militias fought for Fascism in Spain, but it never really achieved societal revolution in the way it did in Italy and Germany. Franco's government did practice corporatism, to my knowledge, which is a very underrated economic philosophy.

I would think most people would disagree with your designation of the C.S.A., but I actually agree, and commend you for pointing that out. The C.S.A. was extremely conservative, but essentially born from libertarian ideals and the value of state's rights.
Yes, exactly! Wow. . have you ever read Antony Beevor's book on the Spanish Civil War? I thought it was pretty interesting.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:26 AM
 
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Somewhere between Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama and not too far from Gandhi.

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13



I think I'm in pretty good company.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:54 AM
 
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I checked unsure even though I'm sure, because you don't have "other".

I don't fit in any category because I support policy individually and not by left or right, big govt or small govt, only if it makes sense to me.

E.g., I think having the 10 commandments and prayer would be beneficial for public school education because moral behavior and values are completely ignored. Kids are taught by pop trends and the media which create the huge vacuum in moral fibre and conduct. Of course non-Christian religions can be taught too, it doesn't matter.

However, I like the idea of Universal Healthcare and creating green jobs.

I thought the affair Clinton had was no big deal. But promoting diversity to me is a silly goal. Diversity naturally occurs...you don't make it policy. Even more important, you do not FORCE it on people.

Toughening on immigration is ok for me. Getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq would be another priority.

So what does that make me? I'm beyond these labels I hope.
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