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Then why not sell the cars to the ones leasing them?
Selling vehicles that have no factory support, i.e. parts of any kind, would mean the cars would all be sitting on jack stands within six months. GM supported those cars 100% during the lease program, at a great expense to the company. When the lease period ended, why would GM continue to pour money into a dead product? That is precisely why they were leased and not sold in the first place. The lessees were aware of that when they signed on. It was an experimental car that GM controlled, the only practical way to run an experiment...!
No Virginia, there are no black helicopters out there, just many uninformed people...!!
yes very true. and now i will make a statement, our government and chevron lied bold faced on national TV--- gas price flucuations are not supply driven, they are consumption driven.
OPEC and its stooges are fighting hard but oil will go the way of rubber and butter in the 30 & 40's-- their day is at hand-- they will be replaced with cheaper better products.
I think you've made an excellent point Huck!
It will only be a matter of time until everyone will be fussing as to how the car electric battery suppliers are ripping them off.
I read a great deal on lots of "proposals". I also read about carbon trading in Europe. My opinion stands though.
Japan is buying credits all over the world because instead of reducing their usage, they actually went way over and will never meet their cap. They are increasing their usage and not decreasing as they committed.
It's already in place in other countries and is not working for many because they can buy their way out of it. I know the mantra though.."we'll be different".
Japan, is doing what coal fired power plants have been doing for a long time in the USA..
Electric cars are needed to reduce our need for foreign energy and become somewhat independent. We might even be able to some day say hey, middle east, take your oil and shove it, because we don't need you anymore, and, we can bring the majority of our troops home too.
Selling vehicles that have no factory support, i.e. parts of any kind, would mean the cars would all be sitting on jack stands within six months. GM supported those cars 100% during the lease program, at a great expense to the company. When the lease period ended, why would GM continue to pour money into a dead product? That is precisely why they were leased and not sold in the first place. The lessees were aware of that when they signed on. It was an experimental car that GM controlled, the only practical way to run an experiment...!
No Virginia, there are no black helicopters out there, just many uninformed people...!!
Not exactly. The US Government funded GM's endeavor for the electric car. The EV1. All but one of these cars were crushed. These cars were very, very dependable with the newer version battery.
GM squandered taxpayer money again. And, unfortunately, they've been bailed out just recently. The US Government needs to tell GM and chrysler that the well has run dry. Only GM and Chrysler have received bailouts, FORD Motor Company is self sufficient.
My father worked in a electrical steel factory that was looking into making parts for the electrical car until a man named Carter came along and became friends with the Japanese and killed the idea.
We went to Iraq for the OIL remember? and now we have all their OIL to use so there is no need for electrical cars.
And what Presidents library was built with Saudi oil money?
One guess. Hint: he is an adulteress and his name is Clinton.
For your info the electric car is not an Obama idea like you are making it out to be, not even close.
Electric cars are a threat to the oil companies and the oil sheiks in the middle east who were the puppet masters of the Bush administration. They are terrified of electric cars and will go through extreme measures to prevent their development. We could have switched to electric cars a decade ago, but both Democrats and Republicans prevented this especially the NeoCons.
and the electric car is made of what....plastic...and where does plastic come from.....OIL
This documentary is a must see for those of you who are friends of the environment. In the end of this movie, GM (General Motors) crushes perfectly good usable automobiles for no apparent GOOD reason.
The OP is absolutely correct about the oil companies and the Bush Administration crushing the electric car. GM should be put out of business for their shennanigans.
It is absolutely ludacris what the state of California did. They sold out to big oil, GM, the last administration and to the taxpayers of their state. It is repulsive. Taxpayer dollars went right down the toilet. It's no wonder they have a budget crisis with the way the politicians and other friends of the oil lobby sold out.
Whats more, GM sold the patented technology of a very efficient battery for these electric cars to Chevron! We all know how much Chevron developed this technology!
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“In 1994, General Motors acquired a controlling interest in Ovonics’s battery development and manufacturing, including patents controlling the manufacturing of large nickel metal hydride (NiMH) batteries. In 2001, Texaco purchased GM’s share in GM Ovonics. A few months later, Chevron acquired Texaco. In 2003, Texaco Ovonics Battery Systems was restructured into Cobasys, a 50/50 joint venture between Chevron and Energy Conversion Devices (ECD) Ovonics. Chevron’s influence over Cobasys extends beyond a strict 50/50 joint venture. Chevron holds a 19.99% interest in ECD Ovonics. Chevron also maintains veto power over any sale or licensing of NiMH technology. In addition, Chevron maintains the right to seize all of Cobasys’ intellectual property rights in the event that ECD Ovonics does not fulfill its contractual obligations.”
A shame really. The US would have had the world market in electric car technology had not GM sold out the technology. GM also would never have had the financial troubles it is in now.
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Sunny this is not information they want to hear!
Sorry, but I cannot do all their thinking for them.
They need to learn right from wrong from their constant mistakes and misinformation being trashed.
I know they like to hear things like the OP's constant misinformed postings but goodness at some point in time they will realize posting dreams and hopes only gets you laughed at.
How much OIL have we taken from Iraq there OP? ( Afterall we went to Iraq for the oil right? )
On the bring of bankruptcy and a Government bailout, GM decided not to revisit plans to begin building the EV1. Wow! That must have been one heck of a car.
They couldn't because GM sold out the patent for the battery technology to an oil company!!! Someone (GM CEO) got rich from this!
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